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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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fromorbit · 06/05/2026 08:34

Huge gain for the Greens. Crazy group switches sides.Over for YP.

The Revolutionary Communist Party abandons Corbyn only to embrace Zack Polanski’s Green Party
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/04/gjai-m04.html

Guardian on ZP's latest scandal

Zack Polanski falsely claimed to be British Red Cross spokesperson, charity says
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/may/05/zack-polanski-falsely-claimed-to-be-british-red-cross-spokesperson-charity-says

The Revolutionary Communist Party abandons Corbyn only to embrace Zack Polanski’s Green Party

Building socialist consciousness means fighting to bring the historical and international experience of the working class to bear on contemporary political issues, in order to break the working class from its potential misleaders.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/04/gjai-m04.html

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1984Now · 06/05/2026 08:31

Lalgarh · 06/05/2026 08:27

On the radio now. Says he was traumatized by the sight of the golders green attacker in handcuffs being restrained.

Though he has said the Jewish community is not safe now. Not merely a perception

"traumatized" lol. He needs to get out more.

Lalgarh · 06/05/2026 08:27

On the radio now. Says he was traumatized by the sight of the golders green attacker in handcuffs being restrained.

Though he has said the Jewish community is not safe now. Not merely a perception

fromorbit · 06/05/2026 01:55

Caroline Lucas
Statements that have now come to light from a handful of TheGreenParty
candidates are totally unacceptable & require immediate action. There’s no place for anti-semitism or any hate speech in the party. This is a society-wide problem & needs to be rooted out wherever it’s found

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fromorbit · 06/05/2026 01:19

Oooppps.

Zack Polanski falsely claimed to be British Red Cross spokesman
The Green Party leader was also not a full member of the National Council of Hypnotherapy despite making the claim to potential clients
They include his repeated assertion to have acted as a “spokesperson” for the British Red Cross, which he put on his site and two donation pages while running for deputy leader in 2022. The British Red Cross denied the claim, and the Green Party later said the reference was to Polanski hosting fundraisers for the charity.

It also emerged that Polanski was not a full member of the National Council of Hypnotherapy while working as a hypnotherapist, despite making such a claim to potential clients.
https://www.thetimes.com/article/029c673e-d114-41bf-8e8b-1b71f329db50?shareToken=3e00bfdaea64f9946c31b79443b1aad1

To be fair to ZP this will not affect his core vote it is like when Boris or Trump are caught lying. Charismatic guys can get away with things with followers.

However it is bad news when you need to appeal to a wider middle ground and one argument is that Farage is untrustworthy. It also marks a significant difference with Corbyn. He is often mistaken about stuff, or underplays his dubious allegiances, but he was never that deceitful.

Zack Polanski falsely claimed to be British Red Cross spokesman

The Green Party leader was also not a full member of the National Council of Hypnotherapy despite making the claim to potential clients

https://www.thetimes.com/article/029c673e-d114-41bf-8e8b-1b71f329db50?shareToken=3e00bfdaea64f9946c31b79443b1aad1

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Lalgarh · 06/05/2026 01:12

Newcastle greens have withdrawn support for 2 candidates, now, the day before the local elections.

https://nitter.net/treesey/status/2051783683510514176#m

Polanski is being interviewed on R4 Today by Nick Robinson later this morning as part of the party leader rounds. I can't actually remember if they did Ed Davey. He's successfully supplanted any media attention they'd normally get.

It's not clear if the candidate who uses the name Real Anne Frank is still standing though

Subaroo · 06/05/2026 00:57

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 20:36

This sounds interesting - must go and read about it.

I think a lot of luxury elite politics is all about what they want to happen to other people. Whilst their lives remain the same. It's easy to advocate for open borders when it's not your children being raped by immigrant men from countries where women and girls don't have human rights.

DeSantis sent people to Martha's Vineyard. They were quickly moved to a military base on Cape Cod.

www.cbsnews.com/news/immigration-marthas-vineyard-desantis-flights-illegal-immigrants-sanctuary-destinations/

ThreeWordHarpy · 06/05/2026 00:34

It was very noticeable in tonight’s news that the young people found guilty of breaking a policewoman’s back with a sledgehammer during a £1m vandalism spree were all middle class. They made a point of saying one was an Oxbridge graduate.

Luxury beliefs and luxury crimes, working class youngsters tend to have concerns much closer to home.

SionnachRuadh · 06/05/2026 00:31

I don't mind there being a class aspect in politics - every party should try to look after its voters [1] - but there's something quite funny about the left-of-centre parties pretending to speak for the lower classes that they very obviously don't belong to. It's the Harriet Harmanisation of politics.

Mrs Thatcher used to ask every day what her government was doing for White Van Man. I have no problem with this approach to politics.

[1] Of course the latter-day Conservative Party was in government for 14 years and did bog all for its natural supporters. There's a moral to that story.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/05/2026 20:51

It's the same in my town, all the 'social justice' initiatives are all in one area, and that area ain't the leafy suburb area.

I would so love for the Global Left/Open Borders types to have all the 'inclusive' chickens come home to roost on their door steps for a change.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 20:38

Here's a link to an archive of Baroness Falkner's article about antisemitism, in case it hasn't yet been linked. It's good. She's a courageous woman.

https://archive.ph/X0Pls

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 20:36

1984Now · 05/05/2026 20:29

Wasn't there a whole lot of gnashing teeth from liberals when a few years back, Ron DeSantis governor of Florida bussed illegals from the border all the way to prime Migrants Welcome! areas in upstate NY, upper class The Hamptons etc?
What we found was that migrants were very definitely not welcome.

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This sounds interesting - must go and read about it.

I think a lot of luxury elite politics is all about what they want to happen to other people. Whilst their lives remain the same. It's easy to advocate for open borders when it's not your children being raped by immigrant men from countries where women and girls don't have human rights.

ProudWomanXX · 05/05/2026 20:29

ItsCoolForCats · 05/05/2026 17:18

Caroline Lucas has put a comment on X criticising the antisemitism of some of the Green candidates. This is the reply from "Eleanora", the creep that runs the Stats for Lefties account:

https://x.com/i/status/2051657674110927092

And yet, the hate speech aimed at those of us Women in GPEW was left totally unchecked, nay even totally supported by the ruling group!

But that is "somehow" different.

Wonder why?

1984Now · 05/05/2026 20:29

Wasn't there a whole lot of gnashing teeth from liberals when a few years back, Ron DeSantis governor of Florida bussed illegals from the border all the way to prime Migrants Welcome! areas in upstate NY, upper class The Hamptons etc?
What we found was that migrants were very definitely not welcome.

womendeserveequalhumanrights · 05/05/2026 20:24

ArabellaScott · 05/05/2026 11:01

I'm increasingly noticing that the Green/Reform divide looks like a class one, tbh.

The latest Reform policy of placing immigrant detention centres in Green areas led to responses from Green supporters along the lines of 'you can't possibly afford to put centres in our areas, they are far too expensive'.

Ah so finally admitting that when they say they want 'open borders' they mean only for the poors working class areas, knowing that it won't impact on them because their areas are 'too expensive' for immigrants.

In other words, Reform have forced them to admit they only mean for their policies to impact on other people and not on them.

It is a genius move by Reform and really exposes Green hypocrisy.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/05/2026 19:48

Is this Eleanora unit part of the Global Left Cabal, or one of the Far Leftoids that got kicked out of Labour.

Either way, this is not a person I would want in charge of a country, this is the sort of person who disappeared all those people in Northern Ireland, Argentina and all the many other country's.

People need to find the spine to stand up to this sort of crap now, before it's too late.

SionnachRuadh · 05/05/2026 18:22

That's a very very milquetoast statement from Lucas, which is exactly what I'd expect from her - it could be boiled down to "I'm sorry some of our candidates were caught out, but honestly guv, it was only a handful of them and this is a society wide problem, let's turn it into a teachable moment".

This "Eleanora" character has been going in for edgelord commentary on Jews for a while but perhaps, like Little OJ and Mehdi Hasan, he's glad to have Zack around as a human shield.

ArabellaScott · 05/05/2026 17:41

Ah, the Kind and the Good.

ItsCoolForCats · 05/05/2026 17:18

Caroline Lucas has put a comment on X criticising the antisemitism of some of the Green candidates. This is the reply from "Eleanora", the creep that runs the Stats for Lefties account:

https://x.com/i/status/2051657674110927092

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3
TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 05/05/2026 16:40

ArabellaScott · 05/05/2026 10:59

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15789875/Greens-hopeful-slavery-reparations-descendant-slave-traders.html

'Antoinette Fernandez is the 'reparations officer' for the party's Global Majority Greens group which campaigns for 'racial and environmental justice'.

However, she is also the daughter of a billionaire oil baron who was one of Africa's richest men.

The local election candidate has campaigned for British taxpayers to pay reparations for the transatlantic slave trade and said that politicians who oppose it 'show an appalling arrogance'.'
...

'The campaigner's family accrued wealth through the slave trade which they used to purchase 'velvet clothes, royal umbrellas, hats and stylish robes', the account adds.'

Thanks for the link, I mean of the 'sins of the fathers' and all that, but I find it a bit hard to stomach that the daughter of someone who robbed his poverty stricken country blind and is descended from people who were slavers has the gall to call for repatriations from this country.

All though I save all my 'dislike' for the absolute arses who will vote for her. 🤯

1984Now · 05/05/2026 11:23

Our little friend Zack in trouble again, now caught for liking a Tweet that basically says global wealth is controlled by the Jews.
So, what's his policy going to be on day one?
A wealth tax specifically directed at Jews?
Is he going to be the first leader built by social media to then be destroyed by social media?

ArabellaScott · 05/05/2026 11:01

I'm increasingly noticing that the Green/Reform divide looks like a class one, tbh.

The latest Reform policy of placing immigrant detention centres in Green areas led to responses from Green supporters along the lines of 'you can't possibly afford to put centres in our areas, they are far too expensive'.

ArabellaScott · 05/05/2026 10:59

I wonder if she was named for Marie-Antoinette.

ArabellaScott · 05/05/2026 10:59

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15789875/Greens-hopeful-slavery-reparations-descendant-slave-traders.html

'Antoinette Fernandez is the 'reparations officer' for the party's Global Majority Greens group which campaigns for 'racial and environmental justice'.

However, she is also the daughter of a billionaire oil baron who was one of Africa's richest men.

The local election candidate has campaigned for British taxpayers to pay reparations for the transatlantic slave trade and said that politicians who oppose it 'show an appalling arrogance'.'
...

'The campaigner's family accrued wealth through the slave trade which they used to purchase 'velvet clothes, royal umbrellas, hats and stylish robes', the account adds.'

Greens hopeful calling for UK to pay reparations is slave descendant

Antoinette Fernandez is the 'reparations officer' for the party's Global Majority Greens group which campaigns for 'racial and environmental justice'.

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15789875/Greens-hopeful-slavery-reparations-descendant-slave-traders.html

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 04/05/2026 09:24

Igneococcus · 04/05/2026 07:24

The collaborators/saviour question is a question we post-WW2 born Germans have asked ourselves from a very early age on.

At least you're confronting the past, which is perhaps the best way to ensure that it never happens again.

Unfortunately there are too many 'progressive' Brits who haven't learnt from the past, and don't recognise that there are lesson's to be learnt from history. They're too busy patting themselves on the back because they're making history, without realising there making exactly the same mistakes that were made in the past.
As a species we are drearily predictable. 😕

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