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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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BeKindWisely · 09/05/2026 09:42

Thanks @PrettyDamnCosmic

PrettyDamnCosmic · 09/05/2026 09:33

BeKindWisely · 09/05/2026 09:22

Thank you. Yes. That's where I got to. But what are those startling insights? Who is this TV character?
The rest of the post that delves into this is paid only.

Don't want to derail though!

I can live uncomfortably with the mystery.

Zacharias Wrench, or Zach for short, is a character in the book "Goodnight Mr Tom" which was a TV film starring John Thaw as Mr Tom. Zach is a Jewish boy of a similar age to the main protagonist who has also been evacuated from London.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodnight_Mister_Tom_(film)

BeKindWisely · 09/05/2026 09:22

PrettyDamnCosmic · 09/05/2026 09:14

I haven't paid yet can read the following paragraphs at the end of the article.

Let me tell you the extraordinary story behind Polanski’s choice of name. As far as I know it’s one no-one else has bothered to explore.

Meet the eight year old boy the leader of the Greens named himself after.

Zacharias Wrench, or Zach for short, is a character in a children’s book aimed at 10-14 year olds. A movie based on the book appeared in 1998 just three years before the young David Paulden adopted the name Zack in honour of this imaginary lad.

It was a choice that provides startling insights into the mind of a man who has transformed British politics.

Thank you. Yes. That's where I got to. But what are those startling insights? Who is this TV character?
The rest of the post that delves into this is paid only.

Don't want to derail though!

I can live uncomfortably with the mystery.

Lalgarh · 09/05/2026 09:16

As an update. Greens have gained overall control of Waltham Forest London borough, as well as Hackney where they've also got a green Mayor Zoe Garbutt. Already a thread on FWR

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?reply=152181113

Lewisham also has a green Mayor. The greens have also got control of Norwich and Hastings

PrettyDamnCosmic · 09/05/2026 09:14

BeKindWisely · 09/05/2026 08:59

Thanks for this Womenz

Was left with a cliffhanger of why he chose the name 'Zach'- As the rest of the story is paid subscribers only.

Please can you / someone do a summary!

I'm left hanging and need to know now!😂🙏

I haven't paid yet can read the following paragraphs at the end of the article.

Let me tell you the extraordinary story behind Polanski’s choice of name. As far as I know it’s one no-one else has bothered to explore.

Meet the eight year old boy the leader of the Greens named himself after.

Zacharias Wrench, or Zach for short, is a character in a children’s book aimed at 10-14 year olds. A movie based on the book appeared in 1998 just three years before the young David Paulden adopted the name Zack in honour of this imaginary lad.

It was a choice that provides startling insights into the mind of a man who has transformed British politics.

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/$s_!eD5-!,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F039d98f0-383d-4ce1-b0fa-33ae626000a6_1182x665.jpeg

fromorbit · 09/05/2026 09:12

Millward doesn't know what a women is again looks bad. Remember they can NEVER put Mothin on these shows for obvious reasons.

https://x.com/salltweets/status/2052847172434214949

Results in locals for Greens in England good, but not the ,massive wave people thought might happen/ ZPs recent antics are part of that I think.

Noticeably another issue is Greens and Gaza Indys are fighting Labour over same pool of voters in some places.

Sall Grover (@salltweets) on X

If someone asks you “do you think women have penises?” and your immediate answer isn’t “hell no!” you will proceed to sound like a moron for refusing to answer something with only one obvious answer.

https://x.com/salltweets/status/2052847172434214949

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BeKindWisely · 09/05/2026 08:59

Womenz · 08/05/2026 09:19

Thanks for this Womenz

Was left with a cliffhanger of why he chose the name 'Zach'- As the rest of the story is paid subscribers only.

Please can you / someone do a summary!

I'm left hanging and need to know now!😂🙏

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 14:45

So far, the greens have gained 68 seats, and Reform have gained 665.

The green wave is about one tenth of that for Reform

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 12:42

In Lambeth there's an ultra green poss anarcho offshoot of extinction rebellion denting the green vote 🫪

https://nitter.net/Sam_Dumitriu/status/2052712247189758112#m

Igneococcus · 08/05/2026 12:40

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/05/2026 12:32

I can't see anything on the interwebby, the only result so far for Scotland is LibD hold on to Orkney.

There is quite a bit as yet unofficial stuff reported here on the Times live article:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/8a40d4e3-0fcf-4cb4-a541-482ca19444b9?shareToken=2f7c9aa0ba9e8257ff617fadeb4c10f4&ver=article

Scottish election results 2026 live: First seats declared

Who will win the Scottish election 2026? Follow latest news and live results today

https://www.thetimes.com/article/8a40d4e3-0fcf-4cb4-a541-482ca19444b9?shareToken=2f7c9aa0ba9e8257ff617fadeb4c10f4&ver=article

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 12:32

Polling in London of votes by ward suggest a straight switch from labour to green, eg hanwell in Ealing

https://nitter.net/ElectionMapsUK/status/2052682562313638176#m

But outside London the breakdowns area switch for on Labour to reform.

Eg Colchester

https://nitter.net/ElectionMapsUK/status/2052674896191213954#m

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/05/2026 12:32

I can't see anything on the interwebby, the only result so far for Scotland is LibD hold on to Orkney.

Igneococcus · 08/05/2026 12:27

There are rumours that the SGreens have won Glasgow Southside which if true means Kaukab Stewart is out.

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 12:24

Hackney elects green mayor

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 08/05/2026 12:20

Womenz · 08/05/2026 09:19

When I clicked on this a name comes up, just to warn you.

"Walter Titty" 🤣🤣🤣🤣

ItsCoolForCats · 08/05/2026 09:22

Is it too hopeful to think that Bridget Phillipson will be sneaking in to parliament shortly to lay the code of practice, whilst everyone is a bit distracted? 🤣

SionnachRuadh · 08/05/2026 09:18

The Red Wall is looking pretty much like the Turquoise Wall now.

Let's see how London pans out. In Wandsworth it looks like the Green vote was up, but not enough to win seats, just enough to kneecap Labour and put the Tories back in.

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 09:17

Sian Berry was on R4 earlier saying they've had really great results in taking seats in Oxford and Reading as well as 1 in Salford.

All university towns

ItsCoolForCats · 08/05/2026 09:06

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 08:23

So far the seats in Wigan, Halton etc are a straight swap from labour to Reform.

In terms of polling breakdowns the greens are taking small increases in vote share but it's dwarfed by Reform increases

RESULT: Central and West Bank (Halton) council ward:

RFM: 51.6% (+51.6)
LAB: 28.7% (-56.9)
GRN: 16.2% (+16.2)
CON: 3.5% (-10.8)

Reform UK GAIN from Labour

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RESULT: Mersey and Weston (Halton) council ward:

RFM: 37.6% (+37.6)
LAB: 27.2% (-30.0)
GRN: 15.7% (+15.7)
IND: 8.6% (+1.8)
LDM: 7.4% (-17.0)
CON: 3.5% (-8.1)

Reform UK GAIN from Labour

But the London boroughs are yet to start so the green tsunami of Zack is still pending

That seems to be sending a really stark message that Labour have lost the working class vote.

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 08:23

So far the seats in Wigan, Halton etc are a straight swap from labour to Reform.

In terms of polling breakdowns the greens are taking small increases in vote share but it's dwarfed by Reform increases

RESULT: Central and West Bank (Halton) council ward:

RFM: 51.6% (+51.6)
LAB: 28.7% (-56.9)
GRN: 16.2% (+16.2)
CON: 3.5% (-10.8)

Reform UK GAIN from Labour

-

RESULT: Mersey and Weston (Halton) council ward:

RFM: 37.6% (+37.6)
LAB: 27.2% (-30.0)
GRN: 15.7% (+15.7)
IND: 8.6% (+1.8)
LDM: 7.4% (-17.0)
CON: 3.5% (-8.1)

Reform UK GAIN from Labour

But the London boroughs are yet to start so the green tsunami of Zack is still pending

Igneococcus · 08/05/2026 06:57

At the moment it looks like the LibDems have bigger gains than the Greens but that might be down to which councils have finished counting at this point.

Lalgarh · 08/05/2026 00:20

ZP predicting a record breaking result for the greens. They currently have about 500 seas in this lot up for election and sky pundit forecasts it will be very good if they up that by another 500.

ItsCoolForCats · 06/05/2026 21:04

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2026 20:25

'Then the part I find embarrassing: He wants to know what my husband thinks of my body and how our relationship has been affected. He asks me to imagine how my life will change with my new boobs'

Boak.

It's really grim.

ArabellaScott · 06/05/2026 20:25

'Then the part I find embarrassing: He wants to know what my husband thinks of my body and how our relationship has been affected. He asks me to imagine how my life will change with my new boobs'

Boak.

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