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Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 25/08/2026 16:47

I agree with him, especially the part at the end "...but they are not above the law." It's time the cohort in Bristol faced a reckoning for the anti-democratic feudal system they've managed to impose.
I think all political parties are subject to the same corrosive effect from ideologues but the Green's have taken it to another level.

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fromorbit · 25/08/2026 15:48

Shahrar Ali on the fallout over the Greens policy proposal to remove Tasers where ZP and others attempt to justify the discussion as showing Green democracy at work.

Shahrar Ali

Whilst the concept of member-driven policy is a good one, what Polanski fails to mention is the full-on manipulation exerted by the dominant internal clique of the day, often aided by the leadership, to get their way at all costs. Anything but one-member one-vote, but extreme factional authoritarianism has been the order of the day in recent years.

In 2018, in Bristol, a grassroots campaign of sensible members who wanted to debate sex-based rights were subjected to all sorts of sabotage tactics, ultimately successful, to stop their motion being debated. This was the conference ThePosieParker
was seen distributing literature at the entrance to venue and had police called on her by Sian Berry and other ideologues.

In 2021, my own motion on banning GenderGP from prescribing puberty blockers to kids in UK was subjected to an extraordinary negative campaign to prevent it from being heard, despite widespread internal support. Weaponised use of disciplinary processes followed, which were resuscitated following my first unlawful discrimination win against the party.

In 2022, in an audacious affront to our rules, a dominant clique manipulated conference process to leapfrog a motion expressing "Solidarity with Drag Queen Story Hour/Time". This was despite a clear prioritisation ballot to the contrary, which had put an environmental motion ahead on the time-starved agenda.

In 2024, again, I had a well-founded motion coming to conference, post-Cass, to help put the party on a sensible policy footing with respect to the medical malpractice scandal of the century. Just days ahead of that conference I was subjected to an emergency suspension.

So don't believe Polanski when he claims you can't read a lot into the direction and culture of the party from what gets through to the conference agenda and what eventually gets heard, overcoming obstacles along the way, or getting a manipulative helping hand.

October 2026 Brighton will see another showdown on "Zionism is Racism" motion. The party has an explosive internal fight on its hands because of the fanatical beast they have enabled and unleashed not now doing as they are told, with those genuinely concerned about the antisemitic direction of the party forming alliance with hypocritical leaders who themselves realise the politically suicidal optics of passing such a motion. They're hypocrites because it's simply the natural extension of their chants of "from the river to the sea".

Some of this abuse of internal democratic process coming to an unlawful gender critical protected belief discrimination case near you. Women, in particular, have been silenced and persecuted in the party for too long. It's antidemocratic and unlawful. Political parties and their representatives aspire to make law but they are not above the law.

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CassOle · 25/08/2026 12:02

fromorbit · 25/08/2026 09:37

Oh dear. This is not going to end well Times Article. Don;t have a share token. I wonder if the article mentions the Greens have already kicked out Green Women's Declaration (GWD) from having a stall at conference for believing women are a thing last year.

Greens accused of ‘banning’ antisemitism charity from conference
Zack Polanski's party will not host an event by the Antisemitism Policy Trust and More in Common as part of its conference fringe programme.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/green-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

Hopefully this works: https://www.skipthepaywall.com/read?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.com%2Fuk%2Fpolitics%2Farticle%2Fgreen-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

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fromorbit · 25/08/2026 10:12

Important article on legal fights in Greens wait till the costs from this year come in. How many Green councils are committed to banning women from having toliets or saying anything?

Hatip @IwantToRetire

Green Party spends over £1m on legal costs in a year
Party accused of using member’s money to fight ‘unwinnable’ battles against people with gender-critical views
In 2024, the Greens spent £270,227 on legal and professional fees, which rose to £1,030,118 in 2025, according to accounts submitted to the Electoral Commission.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2026/08/22/green-party-spends-over-1m-on-legal-costs-in-a-year/

Also at https://archive.is/6G3ek

Huge reverse ferret from Greens.

Green Party ditches 'mad' call to ban police Tasers and pepper spray
The Green Party has sparked controversy over a draft conference motion to ban Tasers - but party officials say the wording has now been dropped

Zack Polanski's Green Party has dropped a request to adopt a policy to strip police of Tasers and pepper spray. Documents seen by The Times reportedly showed party activists were also keen to scrap the government's Prevent counter-terror scheme, pull cops out of schools and even close down prisons in a draft motion put forward earlier this year.
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/green-party-sparks-fury-over-37587318

Green Party ditches 'mad' call to ban police Tasers and pepper spray

The Green Party has sparked controversy over a draft conference motion to ban Tasers - but party officials say the wording has now been dropped

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/green-party-sparks-fury-over-37587318

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fromorbit · 25/08/2026 09:37

Oh dear. This is not going to end well Times Article. Don;t have a share token. I wonder if the article mentions the Greens have already kicked out Green Women's Declaration (GWD) from having a stall at conference for believing women are a thing last year.

Greens accused of ‘banning’ antisemitism charity from conference
Zack Polanski's party will not host an event by the Antisemitism Policy Trust and More in Common as part of its conference fringe programme.
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/green-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

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https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/green-party-antisemitism-conference-ban-zack-polanski-mbjkdpts7

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DrBlackbird · 23/08/2026 09:36

fromorbit · 20/08/2026 08:48

Breaking - another huge Green scandal -

A Green party councillor in Leeds is calling on the Greens to suspend Mothin Ali based on, it appears, the misuse of a special responsibility allowance for Leeds Councillors. Seems Mothin was using Leeds money for national Green business for a while probally knowing Mothin I suspect mostly spent on stuff to do with the Midfdle East:

Thread of complaints from other Greens:
https://nitter.net/jwomencount2/status/2090166702919008499

One of those comments in the nitter thread is interesting:

And so it begins. public criticism of public figures (committing what sounds like fraud to obtain public funds) is to be suppressed because of the possibility that they kill themselves. So manipulative, cunning, and sly to use JA as a reason not to criticise anyone.

The Green Party is beginning to sound worse than Reform for its dodgy politics and questionable choices of elected representatives. Perhaps this is the not unexpected evolution of what ‘progressive’ politics looks like after the well meaning but naive sandal wearing founders open their arms to anyone claiming underdog status thereby ending up being exploited for more dubious purposes.

It’s as if they’ve fallen for some romance scam. Of course I love the environment and social justice. Now give me more money.

And of note is that its dodgy politics is mostly reported by the likes of Private Eye and not the mainstream press.

Lalgarh · 22/08/2026 23:06

Omg 😱! It's like Marvel and DC

Zack Polanski interviewing Jeremy Corbyn on his podcast

https://nitter.net/_BoldPolitics/status/2090883909852479905#m

SwirlyGates · 21/08/2026 11:10

lcakethereforeIam · 20/08/2026 23:08

The necklace he's wearing Hmm

And the pout.

The whole impression is of a teenager posing for their friends, not of a politician who is going to respect the electorate and get important things done.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 21/08/2026 06:18

When are these papers going to stop referring to he's as she's, they mentioned he won the female seat without mentioning he's a male. 😤

Lalgarh · 21/08/2026 00:16

Looks like he's doubling down. As expected. I have a vague memory that he complains about being targeted BC he's disabled and I think gets allowance for whatever conditions he's got. I can't remember how or what interaction there has been with Mothin Ali and the "authentic" Guzza (that's how it's pronounced, as he pointed out) activists or global majority greens. I'm sure some sort of accomodation can be reached with Baggy Khan et al

lcakethereforeIam · 20/08/2026 23:08

The necklace he's wearing Hmm

Lalgarh · 20/08/2026 20:05

They'll have a field day with Eleanora

ArabellaScott · 20/08/2026 19:14

I meant the press are not short of scandalous stories on the Greens. Spoiled for choice.

ArabellaScott · 20/08/2026 19:13

fromorbit · 20/08/2026 18:15

With the FT saying this about Folan can't wait for to see the reaction from the Mail and others.

Apparently there are a bunch of internal Green complaints about Folan trapped in the Greens overloaded complaints system. It can deal with women who think they exist rapidly though.

Press has not yet picked up the Mothin Ali Leeds cash scandal yet. Only a matter of time.

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Private Eye had a small article on it.

Lalgarh · 20/08/2026 18:41

These are essentially "celebrity" hirings. Like Sophie Pot noodle or Akhmed Yakoob (now there's a trio). Stats for lefties is very well known on twitter and Bluesky and essentially one of the Valkyries that will form part of any pitchfork wielding mob when pointed to An Enemy of The Left who has outed themselves for being a Terrible Person (going to Israel. Eating KFC. Mentioning Harry Potter books without a mea culpa. Take your pick). Stats has a huge online presence but once the normal people who aren't online all day hear about him (and they will say him) they'll be like "what about bins?" At best.
Or they'll find some of his old tweets.

Someone like Yakoob is robust to ride that out because he has some semblance of a support network and frankly doesn't care what majority Britons think of him. If his relatives shunned him it would be different. Stats for lefties? Can you see him being put up to defend a green policy that allows say free Sunday parking in Norwich city centre on the local politics news programmes? They'd laugh at him.

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fromorbit · 20/08/2026 18:15

ArabellaScott · 20/08/2026 13:46

https://www.ft.com/content/93e67b8b-e7ab-4f4c-8bc9-0a479183bd2e

'UK Green activist who celebrated Iran’s ‘resistance’ elected to party council
Eleanora Folan had praised Tehran’s ‘courageous fight against the imperialist dogs’

With the FT saying this about Folan can't wait for to see the reaction from the Mail and others.

Apparently there are a bunch of internal Green complaints about Folan trapped in the Greens overloaded complaints system. It can deal with women who think they exist rapidly though.

Press has not yet picked up the Mothin Ali Leeds cash scandal yet. Only a matter of time.

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ArabellaScott · 20/08/2026 13:47

'A Green Party activist who appeared to celebrate Iran’s attacks in the war in the Middle East has been elected to a key internal party council.
Eleanora Folan posts under the name Stats for Lefties on social media.
In June, her accounts posted, “Glory to the Iranian resistance, whose courageous fight against the imperialist dogs of the USA has utterly humiliated the Great Satan.”
The post also expressed hope that Israel would be “abolished” and included an image of the Iranian flag.
The Green Party on Wednesday said she had been elected by members in East Anglia as a representative to the party’s governing council.
The party, which has grown rapidly since the election of Zack Polanski as leader last year, has been accused of failing to tackle extremism among its members.
Support for Iran is particularly notable, given that Tehran-aligned actors have been linked to attacks in the UK, including on Jewish, Israeli and Iranian dissident targets.
Last month the UK designated the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps a terrorist group.'

Stats for Lefties 🍉🏳️‍⚧️ (@leftiestats.bsky.social)

🫡Glory to the Iranian resistance, whose courageous fight against the imperialist dogs of the USA has utterly humiliated the Great Satan✊ Inshallah Iran will fully repel US imperialism, Palestine will be freed from the bloodthirsty Zionist entity and...

https://bsky.app/profile/leftiestats.bsky.social/post/3moj6qw72mk26

ArabellaScott · 20/08/2026 13:46

https://www.ft.com/content/93e67b8b-e7ab-4f4c-8bc9-0a479183bd2e

'UK Green activist who celebrated Iran’s ‘resistance’ elected to party council
Eleanora Folan had praised Tehran’s ‘courageous fight against the imperialist dogs’

Lalgarh · 20/08/2026 13:00

Was previously running a hate campaign against Caroline Lucas and appears to have a huge fan ase on this Reddit/s

https://www.reddit.com/r/UKGreens/comments/1vsmmro/stats_for_lefties_has_been_elected_to_gpc/

Lalgarh · 20/08/2026 12:54

Speaking of less than nice people, the Trans activist running the Stats For Lefties twitter account has got themselves elected to some sort of council in Norwich off the back of support from greens for Palestine

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:pmfr2bkbibydlklaovqkj62m/post/3mtgroyauj22f.

https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/2090037047016685674?s=46&t=0QxhPBQgIQA3AGFXbWtrZA

It's adorbs that Eleanora (who has dropped the Gaelic spelling of his name I see) is peppering every comment with insha'Allah. Even rabid Windy this time last year was vaguely self aware enough to be goading Mothin Ali for not signing the LGBTQ pledge sensing somehow there might be issues over inclusivity . Not this one

Tyron (@tyron.bsky.social)

Lol, she won. LeftieStats on the Green Party's governing council now with that absolutely mental platform that the Green Party was being "sabotaged from within" by Zionists https://x.com/leftiestats/status/2090037047016685674?s=46&t=0QxhPBQgIQA3AGFXbWt...

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:pmfr2bkbibydlklaovqkj62m/post/3mtgroyauj22f

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 20/08/2026 09:58

"She tells me just how the party has changed in the last few months: “It’s not what the Green party used to be; nice people who wore hemp shoes. That opened the door for lots of less than nice people to enter. And no one was primed for it."

Few months, where's she been Mars.

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