A Reddit discussion focussing on Trans and not being shut down / users downvoted into oblivion

Lots of people come on to this board and posit an alternative / pro-trans viewpoint. The problem is that their arguments don’t stack up. They rely on an article of faith that (to shorten it) states “TWAW and TMAM.”

And like every other faith system that humanity has invented over the centuries, when asked to shore up this statement with some sort of objective evidence it’s quickly obvious that they can’t. You just have to ‘believe.’

Well I (and, polls would suggest, the majority of the UK population) believe that “TWAW” about as much as I accept the transubstantiation of bread and wine when blessed. Or that there are virgins awaiting the chosen in ‘heaven.’ Or that I could be reincarnated as a woodlouse. Etc etc etc.

??? That’s an echo chamber. It’s like bickering about if a shade of green is mint or sage 🤷🏻‍♀️
Honestly it really is cooked here!

And yet that’s not much, if anything in the way of diversity of thought on here really is there?
That I can see, there is just eliminationism.
I mean I understand that not everyone is inclusive. But this just feels like mockery and hate.
Personally I’m an intersectional feminist. And that includes trans women. So I’m probably not long for this place. I’ve just been appalled with it.

If your post gets deleted, then it's an echo chamber.

Let's see...

And it's not an echo chamber here?

11 upvotes so far on this "but what did she actually say that was so terrible ?" comment.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GreatBritishMemes/comments/1ssk6n3/comment/oho8wvq/

I’ve managed to find some comments that haven’t been removed or downvoted into oblivion. Good grief! I am surprised. I am especially surprised ones like this have survived:

“Debating about areas where transwomen should be treated as women and where they shouldn't be, isn't the same as saying that their existence is up for debate.”

Someone disagreed with that and claimed it is putting trans people’s existence up for debate, The reply to this was, “It's not. This is the level of fanaticism that people are pushing back against. Do you really think we should not debate if trans women should play in the women's sports category?” Hear, hear!

One of the first comments I read on it said it all though. Apparently the employment tribunal system is, “easy to weaponise,” to protect the bigotry of those who have brought claims. Riiiiiiigggghhhht 🙄.

Yes "anti trans bigots" ad nauseum

I see a lot of deletions.

The trans brigade very unhappy at the idea of free speech being protected. How many trans professors have lost their jobs for expressing their opinion? Zero.

Ok I waded in again, I pushed on past the claptrap, and there were some comments that were pointing out the errors to the hive mind. Maybe the mods on Reddit have realised there are more clicks in controversy than in an echo chamber.
Given the large amount of intractable bullshit that formed most of the comments though I don't think they're going to change any minds, but if ever there was a place that need Sunshine it's Reddit.

I don't know what comments you were reading but all I saw was 'transphobia', 'transphobia' , 'transphobia' , 'transphobia' . 🤔