Trans people are more obsessed with JK Rowling then they think she is with them

Thank you, there goes the rest of my morning having another read!

I did provide facts. You didn't.

I never even brought Trump into it. What does he have to do with any of this?

"i will not cope with being tone policed "

But you can tone police the rest of us?

" hope mn report her to the police for hate speech"

Christ!...

that took an absolutely bonkers turn.

people like you are the reason jk has no support.

So now the truth comes out, you don't support her.

Stop telling us what to do.

Any violence transwomen face is male-on-male violence. Nothing to do with women.

It appears the truth causes hurty feelings!

Well you turned nasty all of a sudden. Males are not marginalised. And I said absolutely nothing at all about your political beliefs. All I did was reply in good faith and state the truth.

I loved that thread.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4967923-everyone-scarper-the-rozzers-are-coming

the convo moved along a lot while i was asleep. I CBA to go through it all.

But it remains: using the Bananarama complaint against women pushing back is all the TRAs have at this stage.

I'm still laughing about the rozzers.

Does anyone remember that night Dawn Butler, i think it was her, was going to call the rozzers on us all and we had a merry night talking about how scared we were and what we were packing in our prison bags? Fun times.

What JKR has also done, and the dear lord bless her for it, is defanged the TRAs expectation that the threat of prosecution under new hate crime laws could be used to stop Scottish women "misgendering" (correctly sexing) men.

And of course, helping to fund significant legal cases so women are not bullied out of proving our rights exist by organisations with deeper pockets.

Well she has misgendered trans women and liked comments by others who have done the same or referred to trans women as men in dresses.

Correctly sexing people is not a crime & if men in dresses don't like being called men in dresses perhaps they should think about that before they put on a dress in the first place.

It's so telling isn't it.

"We can't stop all the men who might do it so we might as well tell them and women it's ok for them to do it".

Being old enough to remember Bananarama, I'm also old enough to remember when marital rape was legal. "How are you going to stop it?" was the stunning argument used against legally recognising that woman have a moral right to boundaries then as well.

Just bumping this as a reminder of the behaviour that JKR's online sarcasm towards trans identifying men who slag her off first is apparently just as bad as.

She is so eloquent. Imagine if she spoke for sexual abuse victims or dv as much as this.

What is setting up and funding a sexual violence support centre if it's not speaking up for sexual abuse victims or dv?

She's put her money where her mouth is. So many times.

Taking down TRAs and MRAs on TwiX is up to her. And she does it expertly. There's more to the world than bloody TwiX.

Yes there are some bad men who use a variety of strategies to circumvent safeguarding. It is an unfortunate but well known tactic, such as entering the priesthood, qualifying in medicine/teaching, volunteering to work with vulnerable people, pretending to be a woman.

This is why safeguarding principles must be applied consistently and impartially. Unfortunately this is a bit of an uphill battle what with these bad men being so determined. There are situations in hospitals where you can't guarantee only female staff, but you can offer as much choice as possible to patients, provide chaperones, DBS check staff.

Above all you can recognise the reasons why a woman might need a female doctor, take her seriously and do everything you can to meet her needs. What you should not do is gaslight her, dismiss her fears, belittle her reasons, coerce her into accepting a male HCP against her will.

She does speak up for women's rights and abuse victims in lots of ways but no one is interested in that. It is the trans stuff that grabs the headlines because that is a lot more entertaining.

It is also a win for any flagging actor to mention her and trans in the same sentence as they get loads of free publicity.

Party like it's 1999!

Only not all posters appear to have even been born then!

The Year of the Squirrel 2018 I think.

Ooh, this is fun.

What year is it?

100% if the blasted men, ALL men, would do as they are told for once and stay the fuck out

The thread is about why jkr and the tras are still going at each other. My answer is because it generates money

Which as we all know, is the very thing that JKR seriously needs.

Refusing to accomodate disordered thinking about what type of mind is appropriate for men and women is "Insulting"? I rather think it's the other way round.

Look, as you yourself said, you are (relatively) young.

To be a woman is to swim from birth in emotional blackmail from men (and from male-centered society). To be constantly having your boundaries pushed by men who want to make you feel selfish and nasty for having them (and even probably believe it).

"I only want a chat, why are you treating me like a predator?" "Ah come on, it's not like I'm going to jump on you! You don't really think I'm going to jump on you do you?" "Someone has to be there for the kids, you know I always go out on Saturdays" "my ex was a psycho bitch! Thank god you're normal" and so on.

The older you get, the clearer it is.

So all this is just the same dynamic. Men finding excuses in how we say No to turn it into our problem, just us being mean, so they don't need to accept it.

You think there's a qualitative difference between nice real genuine trans women and predatory bad ones.

But there isn't, no more than there is a qualitative difference between men who rape and men who try to override boundaries in more socially accepted ways.

It starts with seeing women not as individual people but as a group who deprive them of something they are entitled to.

His DSD. He is a male with a DSD. The court case that meant his medical info became public knowledge settled that one.

@butterfly231
The majority of people on the medical register are female contrary to your assertion. Why not just apologise for posting misinformation instead of indulging in whataboutary.

It’s going to be pretty difficult and counterproductive to ban male surgeons from women only hospitals for example: so you can say it’s a single sex space but the reality is it’s not. And you’re going to need something like dbs to protect this.
tbh I don’t know how we got here. The thread is about why jkr and the tras are still going at each other. My answer is because it generates money and distracts from the real issue.
im very bored now. Have a good day and I’m not coming back