How many Pelicots?

This is absolutely horrific, there are no words for it. How many of these sickos are out there and how do we stop them? Is it getting worse or just more reported? That poor woman, and her daughter.

Hard to say.

I suspect it's getting worse. For a start, the internet has made it much easier for men to find other men who want to do this. It's probably made it easier for them to get hold of drugs.

On the other hand, grooming gangs predate the internet.

I really don’t know how we stop it. I genuinely believe that there are many men who will do terrible things to women if they think they’ll get away with it. How do we protect ourselves against the people we trust the most? It is absolutely horrifying.

I think this was mentioned earlier.

60 year old man from Stockport admits to 60 counts of drug assisted rape of his wife

https://news.sky.com/story/husband-admits-drugging-wife-to-rape-and-sexually-abuse-her-over-20-years-13585745

How many?

There's an international task force - only including 9 countries so far. It was set up in April this year. By July it was investigating 113 cases.

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/2100032747959959899

I posted this on the Assisted Suicide thread but it belongs here too. This poor young woman was killed in Spain at her request

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vqdd23y0vo

She said she was first sexually assaulted by her ex-boyfriend of four years after she had taken sleeping pills to help her sleep

Her mother is trying to get the men who raped her prosecuted. I hope she succeeds. They should, imo, be charged with manslaughter too.

This is perhaps me being a bit petty but calling the task force after Medusa, who in some versions of her myth was transformed into a monster after being raped, is a bit off. Although in some tellings the heroic Perseus beheaded her (pregnant with her rapist's child) while she was sleeping. I think Hydra would have been a better name. It's just a detail though. At least they're trying to do something.

It isn't appropriate to refer to these predators as men, they do not deserve to be called Homo Sapiens, but a subset, Homo Rapist (don't know the Latin for that, the story about the woman who an early Roman raped wasn't in book one) and to have relinquished their claim to human rights. Steal another's rights, lose your own. Become an Unman, not, as I suspect they think, an Uberman.

I think it may have been the rape of the Sabines, and the rapists in that story were Romans. But the rape wasn't the sort we think of now; it was abduction for the purpose of marriage so the Romans wouldn't die out. I don't know whether that makes it better or worse.

Romulus thought of it.

I had just finished reading Blood Orange by Harriet Tyce when the Pelicot case hit the headlines and I wondered at the time what Harriet had come across to inspire the drug rape part of the story. I assumed there was a story or stories circulating in legal circles that hadn't hit the news yet.

Lucretia. According to legend, her suicide after the king's son raped her brought down the Roman monarchy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucretia

Thank you. I knew it made Rome ban kingship. So, at that stage, they knew it was wrong.

Add Looksmaxxing influencer Clavicular to your lists

https://nypost.com/2026/09/22/us-news/controversial-streamer-clavicular-charged-with-rape-drugging-report/

The infamous “looksmaxxer” – whose real name is Braden Peters – was criminally charged Sept. 8 with rape, drugging a person for sex and providing alcohol to a minor for an assault prosecutors said happened on May 23, 2025 in Cape Cod, according to court records obtained by The Bulwark.

What a horrible-looking torso. Makes me wonder what he'll look like when he's fifty....

'Little key' was not a good choice of alias for someone so obviously compensating.

And ... has he had a belly button lift?

Certainly looks at least a couple of inches North of where you'd expect.

With the way he's abusing his body to get a certain "look" I doubt he'll make it to 50

There's a case in Germany too, involving author Claudia Wüttke who is fighting to change the law