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How many Pelicots?

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dick27 · 20/02/2026 16:37

This is the third one now I've heard of/read about. Pelicot was NOT an outlier. www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/husband-12-others-charged-string-33463076

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ButlerianJihadNow · 23/09/2026 12:05

There's a case in Germany too, involving author Claudia Wüttke who is fighting to change the law

ElenOfTheWays · 23/09/2026 00:20

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/09/2026 13:56

What a horrible-looking torso. Makes me wonder what he'll look like when he's fifty....

With the way he's abusing his body to get a certain "look" I doubt he'll make it to 50

moto748e · 22/09/2026 20:44

Certainly looks at least a couple of inches North of where you'd expect.

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 22/09/2026 20:34

'Little key' was not a good choice of alias for someone so obviously compensating.

And ... has he had a belly button lift?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 22/09/2026 13:56

What a horrible-looking torso. Makes me wonder what he'll look like when he's fifty....

Treaclewell · 16/09/2026 16:36

Thank you. I knew it made Rome ban kingship. So, at that stage, they knew it was wrong.

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 16/09/2026 16:30

Treaclewell · 16/09/2026 15:47

It isn't appropriate to refer to these predators as men, they do not deserve to be called Homo Sapiens, but a subset, Homo Rapist (don't know the Latin for that, the story about the woman who an early Roman raped wasn't in book one) and to have relinquished their claim to human rights. Steal another's rights, lose your own. Become an Unman, not, as I suspect they think, an Uberman.

Lucretia. According to legend, her suicide after the king's son raped her brought down the Roman monarchy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucretia

Lucretia - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucretia

GriseldaandMike · 16/09/2026 16:14

I had just finished reading Blood Orange by Harriet Tyce when the Pelicot case hit the headlines and I wondered at the time what Harriet had come across to inspire the drug rape part of the story. I assumed there was a story or stories circulating in legal circles that hadn't hit the news yet.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/09/2026 16:01

I think it may have been the rape of the Sabines, and the rapists in that story were Romans. But the rape wasn't the sort we think of now; it was abduction for the purpose of marriage so the Romans wouldn't die out. I don't know whether that makes it better or worse.

Romulus thought of it.

Treaclewell · 16/09/2026 15:47

It isn't appropriate to refer to these predators as men, they do not deserve to be called Homo Sapiens, but a subset, Homo Rapist (don't know the Latin for that, the story about the woman who an early Roman raped wasn't in book one) and to have relinquished their claim to human rights. Steal another's rights, lose your own. Become an Unman, not, as I suspect they think, an Uberman.

lcakethereforeIam · 16/09/2026 11:09

I posted this on the Assisted Suicide thread but it belongs here too. This poor young woman was killed in Spain at her request

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vqdd23y0vo

She said she was first sexually assaulted by her ex-boyfriend of four years after she had taken sleeping pills to help her sleep

Her mother is trying to get the men who raped her prosecuted. I hope she succeeds. They should, imo, be charged with manslaughter too.

This is perhaps me being a bit petty but calling the task force after Medusa, who in some versions of her myth was transformed into a monster after being raped, is a bit off. Although in some tellings the heroic Perseus beheaded her (pregnant with her rapist's child) while she was sleeping. I think Hydra would have been a better name. It's just a detail though. At least they're trying to do something.

Noelia Castillo

Spanish woman to die by euthanasia after long legal battle with father

The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) ruled in Noelia Castillo's favour earlier this week.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vqdd23y0vo

BinturongsSmellOfPopcorn · 16/09/2026 09:39

How many?

There's an international task force - only including 9 countries so far. It was set up in April this year. By July it was investigating 113 cases.

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/2100032747959959899

Lalgarh · 14/09/2026 18:20

I think this was mentioned earlier.

60 year old man from Stockport admits to 60 counts of drug assisted rape of his wife

https://news.sky.com/story/husband-admits-drugging-wife-to-rape-and-sexually-abuse-her-over-20-years-13585745

DialSquare · 10/09/2026 13:41

guinnessguzzler · 10/09/2026 11:46

This is absolutely horrific, there are no words for it. How many of these sickos are out there and how do we stop them? Is it getting worse or just more reported? That poor woman, and her daughter.

I really don’t know how we stop it. I genuinely believe that there are many men who will do terrible things to women if they think they’ll get away with it. How do we protect ourselves against the people we trust the most? It is absolutely horrifying.

SwirlyGates · 10/09/2026 13:31

guinnessguzzler · 10/09/2026 11:46

This is absolutely horrific, there are no words for it. How many of these sickos are out there and how do we stop them? Is it getting worse or just more reported? That poor woman, and her daughter.

Hard to say.

I suspect it's getting worse. For a start, the internet has made it much easier for men to find other men who want to do this. It's probably made it easier for them to get hold of drugs.

On the other hand, grooming gangs predate the internet.

guinnessguzzler · 10/09/2026 11:46

DialSquare · 09/09/2026 16:32

I just read this horrific case in Austria. That poor woman. Heartbreaking. I wish terrible things on the men who did this to her.

https://mol.im/a/16116843

This is absolutely horrific, there are no words for it. How many of these sickos are out there and how do we stop them? Is it getting worse or just more reported? That poor woman, and her daughter.

SwirlyGates · 10/09/2026 10:17

"Her husband, who was intoxicated, initially told first responders his wife had an accident during 'rough sex', news outlet 20 Minuten reports.
Police did not initially suspect the 51-year-old husband."

So, rough sex ending in the woman's death would have been fine then?

GingerBeverage · 09/09/2026 22:16

Her poor, poor daughter.

Ashmol · 09/09/2026 17:15

We really are just meat and some orifices to these men.

I really do despair of men in general. I reckon the majority of men, yours, mine, anybody's if given the opportunity with anonymity guaranteed would do the same. The perpetrators that are known about are, after all just ordinary men with lives, lifestyles, jobs and in many cases partners and families. Just ordinary.

And if we are asked who are the most dangerous people in the world at the moment, well..... the first names to come to mind are all leaders of various countries, and all men, of course.

DialSquare · 09/09/2026 16:32

I just read this horrific case in Austria. That poor woman. Heartbreaking. I wish terrible things on the men who did this to her.

https://mol.im/a/16116843

alcovecupboards · 07/09/2026 15:58

I suspect it's just the tip of the iceberg. My godson was a victim of the Manchester rapist - and only found out when the police contacted him. He fortunately didn't have to go to trial but there were hundreds more victims who weren't traced.

SwirlyGates · 07/09/2026 14:35

Gosh, those poor women.

He had three earlier convictions relating to abuse of women, then was given four life sentences in 2000, yet somehow he was released after only 13 years Confused.

DramaAndBullshit · 07/09/2026 12:44

Filing this under ‘disappointed but not surprised’. A frightening percentage of men are utterly vile, I know it’s ‘not all men’, but the fact that there’s any is unacceptable.

guinnessguzzler · 07/09/2026 12:34

Thanks for sharing that @IcakethereforeIam Utterly horrific. On what basis are these men risk assessed as being ok to be released? It seems absolutely incredible in this day and age that someone like that could be allowed out to re-offend, especially with all the technology available to monitor people. He had a second phone that he used to access dating sites ... 1) Why did nobody check for this and more importantly 2) If someone is so dangerous that them accessing dating sites is going to be a problem, surely they aren't safe to be a part of society?

@GingerBeverage Just another example of this stuff not being taken seriously.

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