Mail carry out investigation into Trans terror group Bash Back

Maybe - but it’s certainly been a reliable indicator in my small sample of friends and family 🤣

A criminal record is not going to help him get a lucrative job in the US either

A lot of cyber security jobs require security clearance. The last thing a cyber security professional needs is a criminal record.

Skillset is the same.

Wonder what the 'ongoing restrictions' are.

He took the name of their last president,

Ugh that's so creepy, and typical of these men.

I don’t think I suggested he was stable, functioning or well-rounded @KnottyAuty. Clearly he is none of those things.

Tbh I glanced at that picture and saw Upton.

Ack. Just as we can learn to mask, fakers caricature us.
Finding our minds' construction in the face is a very unreliable heuristic.

Yeah, a lot of us have good degrees & a structured environment like Sea Cadets could provide a navigable social context for some.

Universities tend to just screen to autism, not diagnose it. For them it is making sure they meet their obligations under the equality act - which doesn’t require a diagnosis.

In the NHS it’s the impossible even if you turn up with a private diagnosis from a proper CQC registered outfit. But you have to persuade someone to refer you there from school and that’s almost impossible also… Took 3 years with DD and her ADHD and we are looking at another 2 years or so in the queue…

Once at university though it may be easier via the student disability grants now I think about it. Anyway if he’s found guilty more facts will emerge in due course.

But the idea that a first class degree and sea cadets membership = stable/functioning/rounded young person made me give a wry chuckle!

I admit both your points but within the NHS adult diagnosis often happens at tertiary level when presenting symptoms (typically severe anxiety & depression) have proved resistant to standard treatments, & a patient has the sheer luck to get a tertiary referral instead of being just kicked to the kerb by secondary services. Misdiagnosisis is commonplace, even at secondary level & adults with ASD will often find themselves diagnosed with OCD or Personality Disorders (usually Borderline). Once misdiagnosed, esp with a PD, it is really, really hard for patients to get a second opinion from anyone actually competent to diagnose, instead of some half-arsed "psychotherapist" with a misplaced yet touching faith in a few slender questionnaires.

I don't blame GPs, who rarely have specialist MH training & in general do their best, but secondary MH has devolved into an unpardonable amateur hour & because they're swamped & operating beyond their competence, you get institutional wagon circling.

Do you mean Magistrates? If a case goes to Crown Court, the decision on guilt or innocence lies with the jury. Juries have (usually perversely IMO) declined to convict activists on occasion but that's not something you can lay at the judges' door.

Some v complex fraud cases & cases with a serious risk of tampering with/ intimidation of the jury can be heard by a judge alone but that hasn't happened in trials involving Just Stop Oil, Palestine Action, etc.

OTH, HMG appear to be taking seriously Sir Brian Leveson's peculiar idée fixe about dispensing with jury trial in many more cases, & with the example of Judge Alexander Kemp before us, that should worry everybody.

ETA no one gets an autism diagnosis if things are going well for them

Hmm. Not sure about that. Via state school support systems and the NHS, you're probably right. But there's a pretty well evidenced private industry handing out diagnoses like candy. Plus a lot of self diagnosis going on.

They’ve enabled a radical who ruined other people’s graduation ceremony apart from anything else.

Excellent point.

Yes there is a lot of self diagnosis going on online.

We do know that his parents support him. It’s in the Daily Mail article.

“Social media paints a picture of a close-knit, affluent family. Redpath’s mother has proudly displayed the trans flag in photos and another family member said he was ‘proud to stand alongside the amazing Autumn R every day’.”

He’s a privileged young adult who has a first from a top university, was in the sea cadets as a teenager and is wholly supported by at least one of his parents. There is nothing to suggest that if he is actually autistic, it is causing him any difficulties at all. I have no sympathy for his parents. They’ve enabled a radical who ruined other people’s graduation ceremony apart from anything else.

Pda is not an excuse for any of his behaviour.
He made an active choice to break the law.
His parents were responsible to teach him to obey the law or face the full consequences of his actions.
The law is the law, it can be an arse but it's still the law and must be obeyed (yes i know black and white thinking on my part). If you don't like the law then there's legal avenues to change it. He chose to ignore those avenues and go straight to criminal behaviour because he doesn't like the opinions of other people.
More to the point we have zero evidence that hes asd let alone pda other than his claim of asd.
We have collectively failed an entire generation by raising them to believe that they're feelings and opinions matter more than anyone else's and that as long as they are "on the right side of history" that the ends justify the means and they should face no consequences for their actions. This privalliged young man is a classic example another would be the PA thugs on remand for breaking a police woman's spine, or the German just stop oil guy who shut down a major bridge for more than a day and didn't think he should be deported when he got out of jail nor that he should've been jailed in the 1st place.

He'll learn nothing. He's a member of the most marginalised and the most vulnerable remember. He's on TRSOH too. I don't know what it would take to give him an 'are we, am I, the baddies?' moment.

Im not making any excuses but I know that with my DS and DH they don’t cooperate or take on board requests or rules. The PDA presentation can also cause someone to actively fight back against a perceived “demand” to follow a rule or act in a particular way. My lot defo act like that and it’s such a worry as they get themselves into trouble and it’s idiotic imo. A friend’s son used to get violent and she had to work out ways of asking without asking which was very complex snd not always successful. All I was saying was to not automatically blame the parents - but “Autumn” if guilty will have to deal with the consequences and no excuses. We will probably never know what he manages to learn from this… do better? Or how not to get caught next time? Urgh

I was always taught that ignorance of the law is no defence... but somehow we seem to be moving towards a position whereby the first thing a prosecution needs to do is prove that the accused is not part of a marginalized community, is not suffering any sort of mental ill health or neuro-diversity, and can recite the full text of the relevant law with no errors. If not how on earth can we expect the individual concerned to understand that theft / assault / hacking / murder is wrong?

@KnottyAuty I'm well aware of asd as I am autistic and so is my ds.
His autism doesn't excuse his criminal behaviour or his hypocrisy.
His parents had a responsibility to teach him that disagreeing with someone doesn't give him the right to attack, hack or dox people. They clearly failed on atleast the last two but probably all 3 due to him being part of bash back.
Someone who is capable of getting a uni degree and go on to study a masters is capable of understanding and obeying the law

Redpath has potentially messed up his future prospects badly here. If there are tutors at Warwick who should have known what he was doing and didn’t, or who did know and did nothing, or who who gave him duff or deficient instruction in the legalities of hacking, I hope that this comes out via the court/legal process.

Trans is a red flag for possible autism. Trans plus IT expert is a double red flag. It is more than possible he is autistic, diagnosed or not... but the idea that his words can be trusted is a bit far fetched to me!