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skippy67 · 12/10/2025 14:10

"Uber liberal London"? What point do you think your making with that. London works fine, thanks.

OverlyFragrant · 12/10/2025 14:07

This is where rights conflict.
Women and girls have a right to not be discriminated against, including Muslim women and girls. The fact that girls over 12 are completely banned with no alternative is discriminatory.
Some Muslim men find it offensive to their beliefs and dignity to share activities with women and girls. Some muslim women will also feel very uncomfortable running in the presence of men.
Discrimination is allowed to happen if it is a means of achieving a legitimate aim, ie increasing sports participation amongst a sex historically under-represented (ie womens only run clubs, gyms, swimming schools). Given that Muslim men are free to run whenever, and can also donate money whenever, I don't see how banning women and girls over 12 meets this rule, when they could sex segregate.
The real question is to Tower Hamlets council, how they are allowing their park to be used for this event, but given as its Tower Hamlets, I wouldn't expect any less from them.
The EHRC is on the case and I will be interested in their opinion.

blueliner · 12/10/2025 14:07

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 12:58

It's organised by a mosque.
Presumably those who attend that mosque are happy with the way it's run and the rules.

What makes you presume this?

blueliner · 12/10/2025 14:06

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:31

Do you attend this mosque?
If you do why didn't you organise a women's one?

There was a already a mixed sex race happening they just excluded women of a certain age.

blueliner · 12/10/2025 14:05

@Needmorelego

It’s lucky all of society isn’t arranged around your likes and dislikes. If the women didn’t want o race tat is their choice, except it is not their choice is it because they weren’t given one.

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 14:01

@Needmorelego do you believe that British women should all have the same rights or does it depend on their religion

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 13:59

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:31

Do you attend this mosque?
If you do why didn't you organise a women's one?

Should I only be concerned abouts the rights of women who are the same religion or ethnicity as myself?

Can I not be concerned about the rights of all women

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:31

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 13:14

They weren't offered the chance to participate

Do you attend this mosque?
If you do why didn't you organise a women's one?

MagicLoop · 12/10/2025 13:23

Noorandapples · 12/10/2025 13:02

Plenty of runs are organised by and for muslim women explicitly excluding men, in general most muslim women dont WANT to run with a bunch of sweaty men

Are you suggesting the rule is in place for this run because Muslim girls under 12 would be ok with running with 'a bunch of sweaty men', but literally not a single Muslim girl or woman of 12 or over would want to? I find that very, very hard to believe.

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 13:14

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:13

Maybe none of the women were interested.
I hate things like running events personally. I wouldn't be interested.

They weren't offered the chance to participate

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:13

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 13:10

There's no ladies race advertised

Maybe none of the women were interested.
I hate things like running events personally. I wouldn't be interested.

spannasaurus · 12/10/2025 13:10

itsraining2024 · 12/10/2025 13:06

The ladies race is probably separate.

There's no ladies race advertised

itsraining2024 · 12/10/2025 13:06

The ladies race is probably separate.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/10/2025 13:04

There’s another 500 post thread on this.

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:04

MagicLoop · 12/10/2025 13:01

Would a non-Muslim event be allowed to do this in the UK? If not, then a Muslim event shouldn't be allowed to either.

Surely it's not actually a "Muslim" event. It's an event run organised by a mosque.
Most sport is divided into male and female events.

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 13:02

MagicLoop · 12/10/2025 13:01

Would a non-Muslim event be allowed to do this in the UK? If not, then a Muslim event shouldn't be allowed to either.

I expect a Orthodox Jewish event would be split by male and female too.

Noorandapples · 12/10/2025 13:02

Plenty of runs are organised by and for muslim women explicitly excluding men, in general most muslim women dont WANT to run with a bunch of sweaty men

MagicLoop · 12/10/2025 13:01

Would a non-Muslim event be allowed to do this in the UK? If not, then a Muslim event shouldn't be allowed to either.

Needmorelego · 12/10/2025 12:58

It's organised by a mosque.
Presumably those who attend that mosque are happy with the way it's run and the rules.

ThatZanyFatball · 12/10/2025 12:50

Depends, does the ban include transwomen too? If so I'm sure the wokerati will praise them for affirming trans identities.