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anyone see Boy George on Lorraine Kelly?

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womanbornn · 26/06/2025 09:45

a few years back, George was asking people on Twitter to leave their pronouns at the door, sounding very GC and sensible, from the standpoint of a nonconformist male in the 80’s who liked to wear makeup and dresses whilst happy to be a man and aware he’s not a woman.

Nowadays he’s going on breakfast tv mocking JK Rowling, who only replied to his bloody tweet in self defence. George started the conversation with her.

She didn’t say anything in response that wasn’t factual or on point.

And Lorraine bloody Kelly in mock bewilderment, asking “why does it always end up about toilets”
Do some bloody reading Lorraine. Open your brain. Stop pretending that you don’t understand. (in the style of Jeremy bloody Vine)

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pontefractals · 26/06/2025 10:57

Am I dreaming or did Ms K "write" a book about a lovely, lovely, gentle, kind, stunning and brave transperson winning against all the odds?

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womanbornn · 26/06/2025 10:56

Lorraine’s mocking, faux bewildered tone totally invalidates the genuine concerns shared by the vast majority of the country and now protected and enshrined in law by the supreme court. I wonder if Lorraine has read the hundreds of replies to George on X disagreeing with him, or if she’s wondered why the vast majority of the country are backing JK Rowling and cheering the other day when Martine Croxall corrected pregnant people to pregnant women? Or if she’s wondered why transwomen are so hellbent on entering biological women’s spaces? Or if she cares?

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lcakethereforeIam · 26/06/2025 10:47

It doesn't end with toilets. That's where it starts. That's the line in the sand. It's the gendered space that most people will use every. Giving way, letting them be colonised by men will make it harder to defend spaces where women are even more vulnerable. Just like they took 'woman', were taking 'female' and were coming for 'biological woman'.

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womanbornn · 26/06/2025 10:46

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/06/2025 10:42

@womanbornn Why was he on there OP? Does he have a new song out for the first time in 3 decades? Or was he just wanting to tell woman to shut up?
Shame on Lorraine for giving him a platform.

I don’t know. I just watched the clip on X where he was laughing along with Lorraine about his spat with JK Rowling and doing the hashtag be kind bullshit whilst pretending not to know the nuance behind it all. When he clearly does understand, afterall he was posting “leave your pronouns at the door” not that long ago…
I couldn’t make out everything he was saying either as his voice wasn’t very clear. I don’t know why.

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sanluca · 26/06/2025 10:44

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

I read that tweet about taking photos and shaming them. Not a smart move but she did not say take the picture in the toilets. Could also be done on entering or leaving.

I disagree with public shaming anyway, stupid tactic.

That said, we all know why toilets are the fighting ground; transactivists hope that they can use toilets as the thin edge of the wedge now their tactic of removing the boundary in high risk environments such as prisons, failed.

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 26/06/2025 10:42

@womanbornn Why was he on there OP? Does he have a new song out for the first time in 3 decades? Or was he just wanting to tell woman to shut up?
Shame on Lorraine for giving him a platform.

Thelnebriati · 26/06/2025 10:41

“why does it always end up about toilets”

I know this comment is intended to belittle women for caring so much, but it misses the point.
You have to be convicted of a crime to be sent to prison, you have to be a victim of DV to be sent to a women's shelter, you have to work out if you go to the gym, you have to swim if you go to the pool; any man can walk into the women's bathroom and claim special privilege, knowing the women in there can't object. He doesn't have to do anything except break the social contract.

No civil rights movement undermines safeguarding, or the established rights of another group, and its tactics enable abusers and prevent victims from reporting abuse, it cannot be a civil rights movement.

caramac04 · 26/06/2025 10:33

Boy George (a male title) is an attention seeking, violent and nasty criminal.
Lorraine has been pretty successful as a woman who twitters and fawns.

WomenShouldStillWinWomensSportsIsBack · 26/06/2025 10:31

I think Boy George is an awful human being after what he did and wouldn't give his opinions the time of day. I'm actually horrified that a predator like him is still put on TV or given any kind of credence. One of the most beautiful moments in television was that argument between Boy George and David Walliams, it was like watching two crocodiles fighting, one of them was going to get hurt and you didn't care which and both were showing their true colours on national TV.

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womanbornn · 26/06/2025 10:30

Glamourreader · 26/06/2025 10:24

Why does it always end up about toilets Lorraine? Because some men won't even allow women to change a bloody tampon in an all female environment. That's how little respect we are shown.

I know, it’s ridiculous. Acquiring a sex? How does that work then! LOL.

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Beowulfa · 26/06/2025 10:25

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

Nobody can "acquire" a new sex. It's not like the Argos catalogue.

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womanbornn · 26/06/2025 10:24

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

I’m assuming you think women should have to put up with males in their toilets, prisons; rape crisis centres, sports etc? And I assume you’ve got no issue with the delightful TRA who hold up “decapitate terfs” banners? What do you think is wrong with having separate toilets for females? And other separate spaces for women?

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Glamourreader · 26/06/2025 10:24

Why does it always end up about toilets Lorraine? Because some men won't even allow women to change a bloody tampon in an all female environment. That's how little respect we are shown.

BeeSouriante · 26/06/2025 10:20

I mean, it's 'gender critical' activists who made it about toilets, the delightful people at Sex Matters are trying to work out how to make it an illegal offence to use the toilet of your acquired sex and JK Rowling has been telling people to photograph people they think may be trans in the toilet (which would be an offence) and post them up on Elon Musk's far right site. All totally normal behaviour.

MarieDeGournay · 26/06/2025 10:19

🙄
"why does it always end up about toilets”
Where they pee is such an obsession for TRAs that I wonder if that's what the T in LGBTQ really stands for?Grin

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