Yasmin Alibhai-Brown "Most rape is commited by men men"

I doubt many trans activists would like her new terminology of 'men men'

My daughter (nurse NHS) would also get shouty and screechy. Seems to have died off a bit,

After the SC ruling she asked me what about the transexuals.

I could not be arsed to give her much of an answer other that why is that a woman problem?

No reply of course.

I reckon as with Yasmin and my daughter they are suffering severe cognitive dissonance in the face of CASS, Peggie, and the SC ruling of course. They are struggling with keeping hold of the none existent logic.

So i think they will eventually stop it and find a ferret so to speak.

Sadly my DD, who knows fine you cannot change sex, always goes into 'be kind', 'it doesn't matter' mode.

No, she's muddying the waters. I think she knows that a transman is a woman (I've heard her on similar). By saying transmen do not commit rape (which I presume is true) she is hiding that transwomen can and do - but they're women, not transmen. It's either bait and switch or motte and bailey! She is a disgrace.

Her lack of understanding the basics that her wording just shouts out is bad enough. But even if looked at as what I presume she meant - that most rape is committed by non-trans identified men, not trans identified men - her statement is asinine.

Most rape is committed by men who haven’t been convicted of rape. It doesn’t make the ones who have been convicted of rape any safer.

I love Andrew Doyle.

So let me get this straight...
A man man has a penis and a transman doesn't...

So wouldn't that automatically mean that... um...

This!

She’s not the brightest. She didn’t understand what was going on as transsexual misogynist Jan Morris was making comments about young Yasmin’s underwear while in the ladies toilets.

She’s so intent on dismissing this - she’s protesting a bit much imo.

Most rapes are carried out by men men, some rapes are carried out by men who think they are women, what?

I don’t know what point she was making. Isn’t that an own goal?

Where does it go? Most rapes are carried out by blonde and brown haired men and only a few by red haired men, so red haired men can go in women’s spaces? There’s less of them so stop complaining about it and let the red haired men do whatever they want. (sorry red haired people - you are beautiful)

Id also point out that women raped or assaulted by strangers don’t have a discussion about gender diversity, or acceptable pronouns at the time, they just know it’s a man. When they say they were assaulted by a man, they haven’t discussed the rainbow of gender identities in their heart of hearts with their atttacker.

How about 'all rape is committed by post-pubescent males, the vast majority legally adult.

Your woman is on the long list of British people I don't need to know about,.

But more annoying is the screeching, hysterical, uncontrolled outrage she expresses wiggling in her seat like she has ants in her pants. I find it incredibly sad that we have women like this on our TV, in debates who cannot hold it together

tbh that’s exactly the response I’ve had on the very few occasions I’ve discussed it outside of MN. People immediately go into shouty “how very dare you!!” mode which makes having a sensible conversation impossible

Yasmin A-B is always screechy and makes everything about race.

Oh but she’s been a journalist for 37 years, won awards, but still got paid less than her white male counterparts so she knows what she’s talking about. Failed to comprehend that had the meritocracy that Andrew proposed as being the model we need to aspire to, that she might have had a different experience.

I really dislike her. I watch JV and I disagree with the vast majority of her opinions (and plenty of those she has!!)

I enjoy that show as I feel it’s well balanced, as it generally has two panelists with opposing views and as soon as it’s her on, I just know I’m going to agree with the other person. She’s an absolute bad head and pain in the neck!

She clearly doesn't know what she is talking about.

Also, if it’s ‘most’ rape committed by men men, not all rape, that leaves some rape, which must have been committed by women men, because women women can’t rape.
I quite like the implied terminology- men men and women men - it recognises that whatever they do, they are indeed still men.

The men men made me laugh is this a new definition of biological men?, is she referring to Pete the Plumber?

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"Most rape is commited by men men"

If she meant men, then thats obvious because men who identify as trans form such a small percentage of the population.
But a disproportionate number of men who identify as trans who are in prison have been convicted of a sex offence. Its well over 50%, and the percentage is consistent wherever its been calculated.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5241726-almost-two-thirds-of-tw-prisoners-are-sex-offenders

I liked the gracious way he smiled at her hysterical reactions. He knew she looked foolish

Loved the way she shouted over Andrew while he was explaining the autocratic and bullying nature of the movement, utterly oblivious to the fact that she was proving his fucking point.

I saw this and am glad i could re watch the segment here.

Sometimes i agree with stuff she says, but less often these days.

Two things really,

Yasmin is a really good example of the soft left not getting it and going with whatever the left say she ought to think, the whole be kind bollocks, she just quoted stuff like people being persecuted and killing themselves, so has not bothered to look into this deep enough.

But more annoying is the screeching, hysterical, uncontrolled outrage she expresses wiggling in her seat like she has ants in her pants. I find it incredibly sad that we have women like this on our TV, in debates who cannot hold it together.

Or an argument for that matter.

Carol Malone is as bad.

She has always personified the liberal elite, the sort that wholeheartedly believe that they are on the right side but look down on anyone who dare disagree with them. It does not surprise me she is on that side of the argument.

The other element that's muddying the waters is the way that trans-women who commit crimes have been reported as being women/female in the press, referred to in articles as "she and her", so who knows whether or not these crimes are recorded as being by men or women?