Is there a name for this?

I'm not sure the whole 'claim to be the sole defenders of Women's Rights and present an artificial "my way or the highway" zero-sum game' thing is fooling many people anymore.

You could get away with it when you didn't have crowing bigots doing victory laps over trans people's exile from public existence, sneering and body-policing their way through photos of desperate women expressing their grief in public in the same way that has been done many times before by feminist movements for decades.

Pretty hard to defend the overt white supremacist arguments that are spilling left, right and centre from the social media messaging sieve now.

Pretty hard to defend the omissions and refusals to release the harm stats for trans young people following the complete removal of all hope they had for healthcare. You may wish to familiarise yourself with the content of the excellent Utah report released recently.

'Hostile' being in actual fact women's rights, child safeguarding and medical ethics.

Waiting lists for sex reassignment surgery are up to a life sentence in length already. That is a vanishingly small window of opportunity for anyone who isn't rich or didn't transition a long time ago when the NHS was functionally able to provide trans healthcare.

The Telegraph ran an article the other day calling for all gender-affirming surgery to be banned. This seems to be a major new direction of travel for the 'I just have reasonable concerns' brigade now that they have blocked and then banned treatment for trans youth, are halfway through banning treatment for adults, have effectively banned trans people from public and workplace single sex facilities, have sabotaged the provision for full legal recognition required by the UK's adherence to the EU's human rights conventions via the back door, and are now openly pouring millions into anti-trans legal funds.

It seems likely that for the vast majority of trans people in the UK, this will not be an option. I am counting my lucky stars that I was able to get treatment decades ago at a young age, before reactionary anti-trans activism gained such a devastating foothold on our politics and healthcare systems.

Who knows - we may have used the same toilets before. Prior to the 2017 strategic pivot by the evangelist far right in the US away from gay marriage and toward trans rights, which started flooding the UK's tiny anti-trans activism scene with influence and funding, very few people had been radicalised toward a mindset that would drive them to actively seek out and target trans people. It's a desperately sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in today.

Some seek to blame Theresa May's pledge to consult on GRA reform; that certainly seems to have served as a rallying call that united the far right with otherwise left-leaning anti-trans strains of feminism, and gave the movement its current momentum.

I'm not so sure, though - I think the post-GRA reform consultation surge was a symptom, rather than a cause.

I hope we can move on from the ridiculous EHRC overstep that sees trans people effectively segregated from the rest of the population, exiled from male and female facilities and trapped in a constant prison of fear and uncertainty just for trying to live their lives in the safest way possible for them. It has brought immense confusion and harm already to so many, and is drawing intense international scrutiny and abject horror in many cases - including from the UN itself.

With a seven year lead-in and a wait time equivalent to a life sentence in prison on surgical transition.

Oh please 😂 ! A country where you can get a GRC on simple request, and gender-affirming surgeries fully funded by the NHS, is not in any way "intensely hostile".

There's barely a day that goes by where I don't thank my lucky stars for having existed at a young age during the brief window where the UK was only a moderately, rather than intensely, hostile place to exist as a trans person.

I notice Labour still is refusing to release the full stats on harm since treatment was effectively banned for trans young people.

There's barely a day that goes by where I don't thank my lucky stars for having existed at a young age during the brief window where the UK was only a moderately, rather than intensely, hostile place to exist as a trans person.

I notice Labour still is refusing to release the full stats on harm since treatment was effectively banned for trans young people.

Given that your surgery is irreversible, it's just as well you don't regret it.

That doesn't mean that younger vulnerable people shouldn't be spared your fate.

Waiting lists for sex reassignment surgery are up to a life sentence in length already. That is a vanishingly small window of opportunity for anyone who isn't rich or didn't transition a long time ago when the NHS was functionally able to provide trans healthcare.

The Telegraph ran an article the other day calling for all gender-affirming surgery to be banned. This seems to be a major new direction of travel for the 'I just have reasonable concerns' brigade now that they have blocked and then banned treatment for trans youth, are halfway through banning treatment for adults, have effectively banned trans people from public and workplace single sex facilities, have sabotaged the provision for full legal recognition required by the UK's adherence to the EU's human rights conventions via the back door, and are now openly pouring millions into anti-trans legal funds.

It seems likely that for the vast majority of trans people in the UK, this will not be an option. I am counting my lucky stars that I was able to get treatment decades ago at a young age, before reactionary anti-trans activism gained such a devastating foothold on our politics and healthcare systems.

Who knows - we may have used the same toilets before. Prior to the 2017 strategic pivot by the evangelist far right in the US away from gay marriage and toward trans rights, which started flooding the UK's tiny anti-trans activism scene with influence and funding, very few people had been radicalised toward a mindset that would drive them to actively seek out and target trans people. It's a desperately sad state of affairs that we find ourselves in today.

Some seek to blame Theresa May's pledge to consult on GRA reform; that certainly seems to have served as a rallying call that united the far right with otherwise left-leaning anti-trans strains of feminism, and gave the movement its current momentum.

I'm not so sure, though - I think the post-GRA reform consultation surge was a symptom, rather than a cause.

I hope we can move on from the ridiculous EHRC overstep that sees trans people effectively segregated from the rest of the population, exiled from male and female facilities and trapped in a constant prison of fear and uncertainty just for trying to live their lives in the safest way possible for them. It has brought immense confusion and harm already to so many, and is drawing intense international scrutiny and abject horror in many cases - including from the UN itself.

Pardon my ignorance. But can anyone help? Genuine question. Just a NC

I say that I'm GC as I don't believe you can change sex. However I strongly believe you should go where your genitals match. E. G. If you've COMPLETELY transitioned then use that toilet.
By all means say you're a different gender (and I'll just roll my eyes internally) but personally I don't have a problem if a true TW uses the ladies facilities. I just don't want to share female spaces with a penis!

I don't believe TWAW. I believe they are TW.

Does that make sense? Please be gentle... First time posting on this board but been reading a long time but don't recall seeing anyone saying anything about this? But I could just be being dull... Menopausal brain!

I understand the point you’re trying to make OP. I have an acquaintance (friend of a friend) who’s a trans man but accepts still being biologically female. Absolutely looks the part, very masculine and if my friend hadn’t told me, I genuinely would not have known. If this person now starts using the female toilets, that’s going to cause a scene as most women will assume, based on external appearances that said person is male.

I 100% support the ruling but I can also see how it will create side issues too.

I understand the point you’re trying to make OP. I have an acquaintance (friend of a friend) who’s a trans man but accepts still being biologically female. Absolutely looks the part, very masculine and if my friend hadn’t told me, I genuinely would not have known. If this person now starts using the female toilets, that’s going to cause a scene as most women will assume, based on external appearances that said person is male.

I 100% support the ruling but I can also see how it will create side issues too.

When it comes to the 'men who've had their penis removed' argument I think Sarah Jane Baker is a good example.

SJB was in prison for kidnap, torture, and attempted murder. He castrated himself while inside and claims to have eaten his own balls. He was recently recalled after calling for trans activists to punch feminists 'in the fucking face'.

This man should not be sharing spaces with any women.

is it not in the wrong place?

Correct! Gold star.

Or at least in a different place - an ardent genderist would start a spiel on how there are no wrong places and every woman is different.

Actually, here's a real example of that from Reddit I saw the other day.

Since the vast majority or transwomen are not surgically changed - it would be interesting to see if the prison stats see a behaviour difference between completed surgical transition and the standard transistioner - but that needs data which people are keen to avoid collecting