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Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action

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OhBuggerandArse · 16/05/2025 15:30

Sorry if this has already been shared - here are the links to their letter and statement. Looking forward to the Mumsnet analysis :-)

https://goodlawproject.org/were-bringing-a-legal-challenge-to-the-ehrcs-interim-update

https://goodlawproject.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Letter-to-the-Equality-and-Human-Rights-Commission-16-May-2025_Redacted.pdf

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Nameychangington · 19/05/2025 17:22

Bannedontherun · 19/05/2025 16:17

I suspect they have formulated a strategy of sorts, what with the Judge on GMB, the Pretty trans stunt in London etc.

It is starting to look like they are going to argue transexuals who have had GRS are an exception, because they are “anatomically female” and therefore unsafe in male facilities.

I hope so as it will piss the TRA’s no end and cause a schism, in the movement.

That was kind of the Scottish government's case wasn't it? Except they went with having a GRC not having surgery. I don't think most TRAs even realise that their 'side' had already agreed that non GRC holding transwomen were not entitled to be considered women. And that therefore even if FWS had lost the vast majority of them would still not be lawfully permitted in women's single sex spaces. Self ID was over either way on paper (though in reality would have been impossible to police).

I believe that's why Stonewall et al didn't apply to intervene, because their arguments would have had to be that GRC holders were 'proper trans' and the rest weren't. Which isn't what Stonewall et al had spent the last 15 years lying about. TRAs would have tantrummed and all the businesses and public services that Stonewall made money from would have said 'oy that's not what you made us put in our polices, what are you saying?'.

Stonewall expanded the trans umbrella and 'truscum' got pushed down the totem pole, but in the case 'truscum' were the only transpeople under discussion. The TRAs who are actually capable of understanding the judgement will eventually realise that and then there will be fireworks.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 19/05/2025 16:36

DuchessofReality · 19/05/2025 16:19

Urgh. So I suppose the answer to that is that we obviously don't need sex segregated spaces then?

I mean, by all means campaign for mixed sex prisons, hospital wards, mixed sex strip searching, mixed sex changing rooms (including in schools) if you want. Somehow don't think you would get may takers.....

It's a dam, if you don't build it on a good foundation and be sure to block any leak that appears then it will collapse.

Sound foundation = using language correctly

The SC ruling as written = there are no leaks

Any edge case (... because they are “anatomically female” and therefore unsafe in male facilities ...) = deliberately poking a hole into it

The TRA approach means that no exceptions can be tolerated - the response has to be a hard no.

DuchessofReality · 19/05/2025 16:19

SabrinaThwaite · 19/05/2025 16:04

The latest one is spouting about segregating single sex spaces by, whoddathunkit, sex is exactly the same as segregating single sex spaces by race.

What a twonk.

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Urgh. So I suppose the answer to that is that we obviously don't need sex segregated spaces then?

I mean, by all means campaign for mixed sex prisons, hospital wards, mixed sex strip searching, mixed sex changing rooms (including in schools) if you want. Somehow don't think you would get may takers.....

Bannedontherun · 19/05/2025 16:17

I suspect they have formulated a strategy of sorts, what with the Judge on GMB, the Pretty trans stunt in London etc.

It is starting to look like they are going to argue transexuals who have had GRS are an exception, because they are “anatomically female” and therefore unsafe in male facilities.

I hope so as it will piss the TRA’s no end and cause a schism, in the movement.

SabrinaThwaite · 19/05/2025 16:04

dubaichocolate · 19/05/2025 13:51

IW also makes videos filmed in their car.

The latest one is spouting about segregating single sex spaces by, whoddathunkit, sex is exactly the same as segregating single sex spaces by race.

What a twonk.

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 14:11

fromorbit · 19/05/2025 08:27

Seems various people are reporting GLP and Jolyon for fraudulent behaviour and undermining the rule of law.

Simon Myerson KC 🎗️

You haven’t started legal proceedings. You’ve sent a letter BEFORE action.
You’re asking for money on a false basis.
You say you’ve published your letter “in the interests of transparency”, but you haven’t published your legal advice.
You’re lying about being transparent.

Barbara Rich

Jolyon Maugham KC, a man who has auctioned invitations to dinner with himself for charity, delegitimises the judgment of the UK Supreme Court with his “to please their dinner party friends” slur. In doing so he gives wings to outright conspiracy theories about judicial corruption

Please can we have more examples of this! Since the GLP is using - arguably mis-using? - the law as its own petard, I'd love to see them hoist on itGrin

JasmineAllen · 19/05/2025 14:03

dubaichocolate · 19/05/2025 13:51

IW also makes videos filmed in their car.

I can't imagine that provides much to live off, unless of course IW is actually a really good mechanic and they are the sort of 'how to' videos you see on YouTube that get good sponsorship money.

dubaichocolate · 19/05/2025 13:51

IW also makes videos filmed in their car.

JasmineAllen · 19/05/2025 13:46

Another2Cats · 19/05/2025 13:00

So, the latest from India Willoughby. The GC movement had to "buy" the Supreme Court.

Well, I mean, who hasn't accidentally bought the Supreme Court when you're doing a big shop?

Some amusing replies:

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1924418356611821599

Apart from be on twitter spouting nonsense, what is it that IW actually does all day/for a living because I'm struggling to see IWs skill set.

JasmineAllen · 19/05/2025 13:45

NormalAuntFanny · 19/05/2025 12:58

'irrelevant in the context of truth and justice.' is also pretty funny, no doubt if the poll had said the opposite they'd be trumpeting it everywhere

The denial that most people support the SC decision is something to behold 😂

LarkLaneAgain · 19/05/2025 13:42

@MyAmpleSheep A joy to read your posts. On the road to nowhere, it seems.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2025 13:37

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 13:29

I wonder did IW mean that the GC movement had bought the UK Supreme Court teddy bear?
Yes, the UKSC has an online shop, and it sells a UKSC teddy bear.
I want one, but they are £30 and my cheque hasn't come in from the American Far Right yet...

🥰

SionnachRuadh · 19/05/2025 13:36

Online shopping can be a bit hit and miss though. Which of us has not tried to buy a block of cheshire cheese and a jar of blackcurrant jam, only for the delivery man to bring us a judicial review?

lcakethereforeIam · 19/05/2025 13:32

The totally fictional hamster is fine, fortunately i had some left from last week. Lady Black of Derwent is cleaning out the cage and Lord Briggs of Westbourne is taking turns on the wheel with Lord Leggatt. I hope the van picks them up soon, there's wigs and robes all over the place.

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 13:29

Another2Cats · 19/05/2025 13:00

So, the latest from India Willoughby. The GC movement had to "buy" the Supreme Court.

Well, I mean, who hasn't accidentally bought the Supreme Court when you're doing a big shop?

Some amusing replies:

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1924418356611821599

I wonder did IW mean that the GC movement had bought the UK Supreme Court teddy bear?
Yes, the UKSC has an online shop, and it sells a UKSC teddy bear.
I want one, but they are £30 and my cheque hasn't come in from the American Far Right yet...

Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action
Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2025 13:25

Hope the hamster is ok Sad

lcakethereforeIam · 19/05/2025 13:24

This is what I meant to buy

Supreme Tiny Friends Harry Hamster Tasty Mix Food

But it was out of stock and I got subbed a Supreme Court. I've got their Lordships weeding and watering the garden at the moment but they're going back.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/05/2025 13:23

I just accidentally bought 2 blocks of extra mature cheddar this week (which added up to bleeding fortune). Heaven knows what my basket total would have been if I’d accidentally double clicked on the Supreme Court

WallaceinAnderland · 19/05/2025 13:22

India 'Let's go down the Trump route and put barbed wire in the English Channel to keep the migrants out' Willoughby?

What a load of nonsense he spouts.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 19/05/2025 13:21

India’s lame pun doesn’t work in my accent.

Hedgehogmud · 19/05/2025 13:17

It’s probably lurking in the middle aisle, waiting to leap into you shopping basket along with the inflatable kayak.

Another2Cats · 19/05/2025 13:00

So, the latest from India Willoughby. The GC movement had to "buy" the Supreme Court.

Well, I mean, who hasn't accidentally bought the Supreme Court when you're doing a big shop?

Some amusing replies:

https://x.com/anyabike/status/1924418356611821599

Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action
NormalAuntFanny · 19/05/2025 12:58

'irrelevant in the context of truth and justice.' is also pretty funny, no doubt if the poll had said the opposite they'd be trumpeting it everywhere

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/05/2025 12:44

THE MOST PERSECUTED

gotta love an absolute

MarieDeGournay · 19/05/2025 12:43

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 19/05/2025 12:38

Crikey

the most persecuted demographic in British society today.

who knew men had it so tough?

Gary Lineker, for one🙄
Lineker 'Trans people are some of the most persecuted people on the planet' | Mumsnet