Cisgender lesbian forcibly removed from toilets by male security after being wrongly accused of being a man

Hopefully better resolution

No. You catch yourself on, whatever the fuck that means.

You know about as much about the majority of citizens in various countries as you do about the women on this board.

Then give a link to the data

No of course not.

My point was, that most transwomen, (men) want to 'dress up' as what we'd perceive as feminine. In order to not possibly risk looking like a man. Wheareas you and I would have shorter hair and wear jeans and a T shirt and still look like a woman because, well, we are, a transwoman usually would not. because they usually sustain an adam's apple, larger build, depending on their 'stage' (if they've even got so far!), masculine features not associated with female chromosomes. So they DO wear skirts, dresses, heels etc.

My partners have all been masculine presenting women. Transwomen do not look like that. In the thread I mentioned and linked, many posters were accusing me of dating a transwoman and therefore wanting to take a man into a female-only space. It simply was not true, which is what I found upsetting. I am all for women in women's spaces regardless of if they look like Barbie or Big Boo from OITNB. They're women. I do not want men, using the same metaphorical descriptions, in them, and being accused of being such was unnecessary, inflammatory, and totally misguided.

You would have to Mumsnet why they have displayed with poor resolution, that's outwith my control, resolution on my screenshots is fine. The data is accurate.

I have been verbally and sexually harassed and kicked out of changing rooms in my youth, stared at with daggers by women in toilets since then. Bisexual and very masculine woman here, though masculine body (and hairy due to PCOS Bald now to boot!) and butch (but colourful!) fashion choices. Never been 'questioned', thankfully.
If this ends up with people questioning me or approaching me, however politely, I will reply:

'None of your business'
'Leave me alone'
'I don't have to prove anything to you'
Or simply, 'Fuck off!

I'm not going to be polite to an impolite question. I would suggest all other women in the same boat do the same, as scary as it may be.

You are the one asking GC women to do the TRAs' homework. It's the group who wants a change in law who has to provide the reasons why this change would be good for society, or at least not detrimental.

Did you? ChatGPT generated bar charts that are illegible in the format presented?

I've provided you with data.

No, this is not how this works. If you make a claim supposedly based on data you show a link to the data. If you don't I assume you talk bollocks.

You know the majority of the population of 10 different countries, and how they choose to spend their free time? Gosh, you must be extremely busy keeping up your correspondence with all those people, it's a wonder you find the time to come here and scold us. How do you fit it all in?

Not doing your homework for you.

Simply look up any major indices looking at the wellbeing / equality of women internationally, then generate a list of the top performing countries .Then cross check against countries with policies of gender self-ID, and you will see that policies of self ID are clearly no barrier whatsoever to a country being the best in the world for women to live in.

Catch yourself on 😂.

I suppose your myopic obsession has you magically thinking 20 or 30 % of people with 'M' on their passports are putting themselves down as F on random surveys for shits and giggles? 😂

Newsflash for you, unlike FWR, the majority of citizens in the countries at the top of those tables are pretty sensible sorts (understandably so, given they are the best countries in the world for women) and are not prone to the sorts of activities that FWR regulars spend their evenings imagining in their fixated and distressed imaginations.

Could you link to the published data because these graphs tell you bugger all.

You tried this argument before, and it was carefully picked apart before. If anyone has the stomach for it, it's on this thread: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5302114-trump-team-to-stop-family-planning-funding-as-it-reviews-whether-its-being-used-for-dei-programs?page=18

No, not because it doesn't fit in with waffle waffle but because it is corrupted data.

😂 Yes that's right, all the major international studies on women's wellbeing and equality with men, cited by governments, women's rights groups and national health bodies worldwide, are all "bollocks" because they don't fit in with myopic obsession of FWR. 😂

You can't know that.

The data is corrupted by including men in the women's stats and women in the men stats

It's all bollocks.

"Why don't you ask the countries at the top of those tables for women's wellbeing and equality with men to see what they're doing, as clearly they are doing something right?"

You're asking the wrong side to do the work. It's TRAs who should be asking those countries what they are doing, since it's TRAs who want self-id like in those countries.

In the meantime: how do you, in the UK, care for "women’s health and futures" if you can't even define the word "woman"?

If there are any transwomen who fall under the bracket of 'women' in the data compiled for those countries this will drag down the outcomes for the overall category of women, as it is well known that transwomen, as a demographic, have poorer outcomes on measures of health, wellbeing, education, economic participation, income etc.

So even impressive then, that these countries are rising to the top of the tables for countries for women's wellbeing and equality with men.

If those countries have gender self ID then any stats produced concerning women's wellbeing and equality with men is technically worthless.

How can they know, when they can't tell if the woman is a woman woman or a man woman?

Garbage in garbage out.

Why don't you ask the countries at the top of those tables for women's wellbeing and equality with men to see what they're doing, as clearly they are doing something right?

They are at the top of those tables and have stayed at the top of those tables for years, despite having policies of gender self ID.

OFFS! Not this pile of misapplied, irrelevant pseudo statistics again!

And how does one adjudge the quality of life for women in those places, when some men are women in those places?

I literally cannot read those pics, but whatever they say: good for those countries? Who I'm sure are culturally exactly the same as the UK...

Back to the UK, though. How do you, in the UK, care for "women’s health and futures" if you can't even define the word "woman"?