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Girl Guides and the SC judgement

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Timefordrama · 22/04/2025 21:15

It was the Girl Guides' trans policies which first opened my eyes to the nonsense. I've just checked their website and they are still saying that trans girls can use girls' toilets and changing rooms, and share accommodation with whoever they want. There's no indication that the policies are gong to be reviewed in the light of the SC judgement. Anyone know any more about this?

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GreyskySexRealistsky · 27/07/2026 12:53

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:34

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/lgbt_children/5559383-trans-women-are-real-women-and-should-have-access-to-womens-spaces

Thread is here to keep going. My mistake to get you to email me. It was very immature looking at it. I take accountability

Keep this thread for what it was intended for, and move all of this discourse here

Just took a look at that thread - he's now getting taken to pieces simultaneously on two threads, not just one

Must be some kind of humiliation thing

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 27/07/2026 12:51

murasaki · 27/07/2026 12:47

Ì like to think of them as similar to those fluffy little haggises, two legs shorter than the others, running pointlessly around in circles on a hill.

Please tell me they're like that.

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Less fluffy and appealing than a Haggis, and very thin-skinned, but yes, two short legs and endless circling.

Screamingabdabz · 27/07/2026 12:51

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 11:32

Quick note on your language there. "Men who self identify as women" are also known as trans women or, even simpler, women. Since GG is for "all girls" (quote from their website) that includes ALL WOMEN. It is also well documented that trans women do not pose a threat to cis women in women-only spaces. If you are going to say "What if they are men and just want to look at little girls in a sexual way?" then should we prohibit lesbians or bisexual women from volunteering when they are already in a tough spot for volunteers because what if they look at the little girls in the same way.?

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Men who self identify as women is more accurate though isn’t it? And men, as a sex class, are the ultimate threat to girls and women no matter what the setting and no matter how many times you try to make ‘cis’ a thing.

Why do support putting little girls at risk with these policies? Only a non-male policy is sensible. No fantasy-pandering.

SidewaysOtter · 27/07/2026 12:51

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 27/07/2026 12:44

Oh cool - I haven’t seen a wild Dunning-Kruger in years! The ones in captivity are just so sad.

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I'd only seen stuffed ones before and they were rather alarming.

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murasaki · 27/07/2026 12:47

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 27/07/2026 12:44

Oh cool - I haven’t seen a wild Dunning-Kruger in years! The ones in captivity are just so sad.

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Ì like to think of them as similar to those fluffy little haggises, two legs shorter than the others, running pointlessly around in circles on a hill.

Please tell me they're like that.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 27/07/2026 12:44

nutmeg7 · 27/07/2026 12:43

It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect in the wild!

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Oh cool - I haven’t seen a wild Dunning-Kruger in years! The ones in captivity are just so sad.

nutmeg7 · 27/07/2026 12:43

GailBlancheViola · 27/07/2026 12:40

It's not language it is the sex of the person. There are only two sexes - Female and male/

I'd urge you to stop making a fool of yourself but I doubt you will.

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It’s the Dunning-Kruger effect in the wild!

Apollo441 · 27/07/2026 12:42

TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2026 12:36

And you haven't posted the evidence for the claims you made re brains and stereotypes.

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Of course he hasn't. Nor will he. This 'science' can only be shared with special people who know how to interpret the data and don't ask awkward questions.
The school holidays have started, thought i'd just mention that...

nutmeg7 · 27/07/2026 12:42

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:08

So, you are not slow, despite you needing to use an ad hominem to try and win? No facts at all in that statement. I think the liberals win here, honey

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“Honey”
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GailBlancheViola · 27/07/2026 12:40

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 11:46

They are also letting trans men into GG (Girlguiding) (for unintelligent people who do not understand how language works: someone who were assigned female at birth who transitioned into a man) so they are letting MEN into GG now. Give me evidence that giving young trans girls the space to be themselves (a girl) is so destructive to the cis girls there.

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It's not language it is the sex of the person. There are only two sexes - Female and male/

I'd urge you to stop making a fool of yourself but I doubt you will.

Boiledbeetle · 27/07/2026 12:37

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:34

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/lgbt_children/5559383-trans-women-are-real-women-and-should-have-access-to-womens-spaces

Thread is here to keep going. My mistake to get you to email me. It was very immature looking at it. I take accountability

Keep this thread for what it was intended for, and move all of this discourse here

Don't suppose you also want to take any accountability for the insults you've thrown our way during your brief visit here?

TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2026 12:36

TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2026 12:35

Wrong board though?
Suggest you report your thread and get it moved to this one.

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And you haven't posted the evidence for the claims you made re brains and stereotypes.

nutmeg7 · 27/07/2026 12:35

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:34

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/lgbt_children/5559383-trans-women-are-real-women-and-should-have-access-to-womens-spaces

Thread is here to keep going. My mistake to get you to email me. It was very immature looking at it. I take accountability

Keep this thread for what it was intended for, and move all of this discourse here

Yes sir.

TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2026 12:35

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:34

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/lgbt_children/5559383-trans-women-are-real-women-and-should-have-access-to-womens-spaces

Thread is here to keep going. My mistake to get you to email me. It was very immature looking at it. I take accountability

Keep this thread for what it was intended for, and move all of this discourse here

Wrong board though?
Suggest you report your thread and get it moved to this one.

CassOle · 27/07/2026 12:35

Number of MNetters persuaded to pretend that humans can change sex by user08101988's posts = zero.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/07/2026 12:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/07/2026 12:33

It’s been started in “LGBT Children” 🙄

In the absence of a “Let Me Mansplain That For You” board obvs

Boiledbeetle · 27/07/2026 12:34

Tallisker · 27/07/2026 12:33

What a blast from the past! It must be nearly 10 years since all those tropes were first trotted out. Has user lots of numbers been asleep for the past decade?

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Tallisker · 27/07/2026 12:33

What a blast from the past! It must be nearly 10 years since all those tropes were first trotted out. Has user lots of numbers been asleep for the past decade?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 27/07/2026 12:33

It’s been started in “LGBT Children” 🙄

Boiledbeetle · 27/07/2026 12:32

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Yeah...

Let's all email some random dude on the internet.

TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2026 12:31

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:29

I just feel like this area of Mumsnet is getting a bit off topic. If this was a part of the internet about the validity of trans women, I would've kept going. I feel like it was getting too off topic to continue

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Start your own thread with the evidence then.
I think a lot of posters on this board would be interested to see this groundbreaking research.

DialSquare · 27/07/2026 12:31

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:29

I just feel like this area of Mumsnet is getting a bit off topic. If this was a part of the internet about the validity of trans women, I would've kept going. I feel like it was getting too off topic to continue

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Sure

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TeenToTwenties · 27/07/2026 12:29

Absolutely not going to email!
If you have evidence for your claims then post them for all to see and critique.

user08101988 · 27/07/2026 12:29

CassOle · 27/07/2026 12:26

Thanks for the laughs user08101988. I have greatly enjoyed your posts, what a great parody. well done.

However, in all seriousness, you shouldn't be asking random people to email you. It isn't a wise or safe thing to do.

I just feel like this area of Mumsnet is getting a bit off topic. If this was a part of the internet about the validity of trans women, I would've kept going. I feel like it was getting too off topic to continue