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Trans Women are Real Women and Should Have Access to Women's Spaces

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user08101988 · Yesterday 12:32

Started because a thread on Girlguiding was getting too off topic.

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Hoppinggreen · Yesterday 12:33

Nope

Screamingabdabz · Yesterday 12:33

They’re not and they shouldn’t.

SunnySunnyDayz · Yesterday 12:33

Surely this has been put to bed? The law says this is untrue. Nothing to debate.

Kepler22B · Yesterday 12:33

What is the point of this thread? Do you have a point you want to discuss or just make a statement. There is a whole section to discuss this - try over there.

AnneLovesGilbert · Yesterday 12:34

Nope.

IGotBigKidsAndICannotLie · Yesterday 12:35

Evidence?

Other than "some men will be sad if women don't give up every single one of our own rights and interests in order to let those men do whatever the hell they please, regardless of the consequences".

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 12:35

Kepler22B · Yesterday 12:33

What is the point of this thread? Do you have a point you want to discuss or just make a statement. There is a whole section to discuss this - try over there.

This. @user08101988 is this another attempt at #noDebate?

Zun · Yesterday 12:36

Aw diddums you’ve never been told no before have you?

moonraker0 · Yesterday 12:36

Hard no from me.

Instructions · Yesterday 12:36

No they aren't and no they shouldn't

Hope that helps

murasaki · Yesterday 12:37

He'll be inviting people to email him next....that happened on the GG thread.

WallowingInMud · Yesterday 12:38

If that were the case OP then they would be. But they’re not. So they aren’t.

RandomMess · Yesterday 12:38

TW are TW not women 🤷‍♀️ no idea what this category of “real women” is.

DoubleShotEspresso · Yesterday 12:39

Nope Transeomen are not women, this has been established in law and normal, sensible thinking.
They are thus, MEN, who have no place or business in female spaces.

DialSquare · Yesterday 12:39

Nope. Never have been and never will be.

hellospring26 · Yesterday 12:39

Nope.

Koleev · Yesterday 12:40

Transwomen are men so use the men's.

Summeriscumin · Yesterday 12:41

No penises in women only spaces. It's not hard.

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 12:42

Trans Women are Real Women and Should Have Access to Women's Spaces

No they are not and no they should not.

Hope that helps.

ALovelyPinkUnicorn · Yesterday 12:42

@user08101988 are you going to try and get people to provide your their personal email on this thread too?

heavens to Betsy, surely no one will fall for that here either?

user08101988 · Yesterday 12:42

So, trans women are women. I have the evidence too. This is a study done by the NIH looking into the neuro-anatomy of 24 trans women pre-hormone therapy. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8955456/

There are also currently a total of 92 sex offenders who are trans women (this is 0.000135% of the population btw).

CNN did research into bathroom issues in the USA comparing states with inclusive laws vs. bans for trans women. They called various police departments and asked for crime data to do with trans people in the bathrooms that correspond with their perceived gender in both types of state. The conclusion showed that the inclusive law states had significantly lower instances of sexual assault in bathrooms as a whole. In the inclusive law states, many police departments reported 0 crimes.

Brain Sex in Transgender Women Is Shifted towards Gender Identity - PMC

Transgender people report discomfort with their birth sex and a strong identification with the opposite sex. The current study was designed to shed further light on the question of whether the brains of transgender people resemble their birth sex or .....

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8955456/

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Dadalus · Yesterday 12:42

I want to see OP back up their claim from the other thread that trans people's brains are identical to those of the sex they identify as.

Edit: they've just posted the study they think shows this but doesn't.

BaronessBomburst · Yesterday 12:42

Trans.
Across.
From somewhere to somewhere else.
So by your own admission born as men.
Women don't start life being born as men.
So not the same at all.

BoredZelda · Yesterday 12:42

Koleev · Yesterday 12:40

Transwomen are men so use the men's.

And the Transman, with his full beard and bulging biceps can use the womens’ WCs. I can’t see any problem there. 👍

Boiledbeetle · Yesterday 12:43

Kepler22B · Yesterday 12:33

What is the point of this thread? Do you have a point you want to discuss or just make a statement. There is a whole section to discuss this - try over there.

He tried, then tried to get us to email him, then got himself deleted.

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