"Punch a TERF" Sarah Jane Baker to speak at #UKWomensMarch London on 18 January 2025

I was even wondering if somehow the SWP or even Sisters Uncut had swooped in and thought we can outsmart these newbies!

Just so strange that all these news groups instantly become a battle ground of control.

With it happening across various parts of the country seems really strange women aren't trusted enough to organise their own march.

Sorry I thought I had managed to get it in the right order.

So as before, start bottom right and work your way left, then up, then right.

Our alternatively which must apply to previous screen shots, just use the < to the left to follow.

Here's one explanation of what happened. Cant promise they will come out in the right order though - sorry

So order is back to front sorry.

Start at bottom right, then go left, left again, up, and then right.

ie the order is:

• On January 18

• That's why

• Feminism is not

• As we move forward

Apologies for imply volunteer staff wouldn't be able to deal with things!

Okay, having gone to a lot of trouble to try and do clearer screen shots they have all been blocked.

I think this is to do with the fact that totally inappropriate images were posted on MN a short while ago, and the paid staff wont be around until monday. And the night / weekend voluteers aren't able to take decisions or something.

May or may not come out, and / or be in order.
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Do you have photos of each of the individual shots or a link to the post as I can't read the pictures, thanks

Was just coming back to say that.

Impossible to read.

But it seems there's been a coup.

Someone small group has taken over, they had sought professional advice or something about how to proceed, and will be letting know those who signed up what exciting things lie ahead for them.

Whereas what would be interesting it to hear back from each of the local groups what they felt was positive about self organising, what their priorities would be.

Is there some hidden network of women when the moment a "feminist" groups gets lots of popular interest they swoop in and take it over?

So sad.

The woman who started the UK Women's March on facebook has left the groups because of conflicts.

She said she hadn't realised there were differing ideas as to what is or is not feminist.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1073715297406848/posts/1123372169107827/

The facebook group is suspended until 6 February.

Its a shame really because even if everyone has different versions of feminism it was her insistance that her view as to what was the right sort of feminism that created the tensions.

Instead of allowing local groups to work out for themselves what they wanted to do. Which I think many did.

But maybe some of the local groups will keep going without having to be beholden to a some sort of central control.

Trans speaker with violent past dropped by anti-Trump women’s march

Organisers of a women’s rights march have been forced to drop a transgender speaker after being “made aware” of a violent past.

The co-ordinators of the UK Women’s March (UKWM) caused outrage by asking Sarah Jane Baker, a convicted criminal, to address crowds on Saturday in London.

The organisers had encouraged “anyone who is an ally of women and believes in women’s rights” to march with them in the fight for gender equality – and the event was set to have Baker as a speaker.

However, they have now said that Baker will not be given a platform.

article continues at https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/01/18/trans-speaker-violent-past-dropped-anti-trump-womens-march/

But also can be read in full at https://archive.is/ZHne0

I think that is partly the point I am making.

If more women "liked" the politics of FWR / respected sex based rights, then anouncing a Women's March would have automatically have been assumed to be women only, or have had a clarification as to whether or not it was trans inclusive.

ie in most public discussions women only is now assumed to be trans inclusive.

In the instance of these 2 new pop up marches, it wasn't something mentioned in either introductory statement / intent.

Meanwhile the assumption is that tomorrow's march is in fact the SWP in disguise, and the February one a Reform initiative!

Maybe we should have an experiment on facebook.

Find a catchy name for a facebook group (Million Women Marching or something?), but in an introductory statement make clear it is a march about sex based rights, and see how many women not only join, but want to plan a local march.

And in the private group discussion just eject those who say it should be trans inclusive, and say the march is about the protected rights of biological woman as allowed under the law.

How soon before it would be in the mainstream that anti trans women are being discriminatory?

A bit off topic - well at least related.

If the msm is to believed the US Women's March that the UK one is in sympathy with has apparently been renamed the People's March.

The Women's March this year has been rebranded as the People's March, co-hosted with a number of other progressive organisations including Planned Parenthood, National Women's Law Center and Sierra Club.
Tamika Middleton, the managing director of the Women's March, said Saturday's march was focused on building a coalition, adding that those in the progressive movement needed to come together like they did in 2017.
"We're seeing attacks on women, on reproductive rights, on LGBTQ folks… and we're realising that we really have to build some coordination across the movement to build the kind of mass movement that can fight back," she said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2pv70921yo

In the years after 2017, the Women’s March fractured internally as the group faced allegations of racism and antisemitism. It also came under scrutiny for being more focused on the voices of straight white women over women of color and the LGBTQ+ community, a rift that caused sponsors to pull support and leadership to shift.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/rebranded-womens-march-returns-trumps-170731556.html