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maltravers · 26/11/2024 13:52

So the defence is just spin. Unluckily for them, the internet never forgets.

maltravers · 26/11/2024 13:50

Answer from the same article:
“We the federations are compelled to undertake the tests and then we pass on the information to Caf”, so yes, weasel words.
The Zambians seem to have done the test (which BB failed) which was then passed to CAF.

WarriorN · 26/11/2024 13:48

Ffs

maltravers · 26/11/2024 13:44

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 13:13

'It has been reported that Banda was excluded from last year’s competition, which served as Zambia’s World Cup qualifier, because she failed gender testing procedures. However, Telegraph Sport has established that Banda never underwent the test, with the Confederation of African Football (CAF) disclosing that the Zambians chose instead to leave her out.

“I can confirm that there was never a test conducted by CAF on Banda,” the organisation said in a statement. “We do not know the reason why she was not included in the squad or registered.”
Zambia acknowledged that they had been made aware, after Banda’s star turn at the Olympics, that her abnormally high testosterone levels were in excess of CAF’s permitted levels and that a course of hormone suppression had been offered to the striker.
But Banda, along with at least two other players – including Racheal Kundananji, also in the training camp in New Zealand – is said to have refused to take any suppressants, fearing potential side-effects.'

https://archive.ph/5LRGG#selection-3503.0-3521.205

That conflicts with this which I cut and pasted from an earlier article and posted in the other thread last month:

'All players had to undergo gender verification, a Caf [Confederation of African Football] requirement, and unfortunately she did not meet the criteria set by Caf,' Andrew Kamanga, Zambia Football Association (FAZ) president had told BBC Sport Africa.“

The article this comes from is here: https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/62057259.amp

perhaps the test was conducted by Zambia/a third party and the denial reported today is weasel words. It would be interesting to see what Andrew Kamanga has to say.

Barbra Banda in action for Zambia

Wafcon 2022: Zambian Barbra Banda ruled out over 'gender eligibility' issues - BBC Sport

Zambia captain Barbra Banda has been ruled out of the Women's Africa Cup of Nations after failing gender eligibility tests.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/africa/62057259.amp

YesterdaysFuture · 26/11/2024 13:35

This looks like a massive trolling exercise.

It's good because this will be flagged up and quickly gain controversy.

Snowypeaks · 26/11/2024 13:32

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 13:17

Edited

Yes, that's the one I meant. Forgot that the first one had been deleted.

OuchyEars · 26/11/2024 13:21

Man wins woman of the year, and none of us are surprised.
What times we live in.

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ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 13:16

Snowypeaks · 26/11/2024 13:14

The other thread's title was BBC SPORTSWOMAN of the year, so maybe it is still here and wasn't picked up by a search?

Nothing coming up on a search.

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MistyGreenAndBlue · 26/11/2024 13:15

Um...don't really need a testosterone test. My eyes tell me everything I need to know about this player.
That's a feller!

Snowypeaks · 26/11/2024 13:14

The other thread's title was BBC SPORTSWOMAN of the year, so maybe it is still here and wasn't picked up by a search?

ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 13:13

'It has been reported that Banda was excluded from last year’s competition, which served as Zambia’s World Cup qualifier, because she failed gender testing procedures. However, Telegraph Sport has established that Banda never underwent the test, with the Confederation of African Football (CAF) disclosing that the Zambians chose instead to leave her out.

“I can confirm that there was never a test conducted by CAF on Banda,” the organisation said in a statement. “We do not know the reason why she was not included in the squad or registered.”
Zambia acknowledged that they had been made aware, after Banda’s star turn at the Olympics, that her abnormally high testosterone levels were in excess of CAF’s permitted levels and that a course of hormone suppression had been offered to the striker.
But Banda, along with at least two other players – including Racheal Kundananji, also in the training camp in New Zealand – is said to have refused to take any suppressants, fearing potential side-effects.'

https://archive.ph/5LRGG#selection-3503.0-3521.205

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ArabellaScott · 26/11/2024 13:11

Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/11/2024 13:08

Wait! Did the other thread on this get disappeared? I can’t find it

I didn't see one, had a quick look before posting.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2023/07/20/barbra-banda-womens-world-cup-zambia-gender-test/

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 26/11/2024 13:08

Wait! Did the other thread on this get disappeared? I can’t find it

WomensSports · 26/11/2024 13:08

WTF is wrong with choosing any of the hundreds of deserving ACTUAL WOMEN who play for fucking PENNIES holding down second jobs to do the thing they love? What is wrong with using a category for the thing it was intended for?

Datun · 26/11/2024 13:06

Ffs. How much more of this shit

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