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Calyx72 · 11/02/2022 20:56

Please sign into CSP and look at the new iCSP discussion "Stonewall and the CSP"

A great thread beginning and agreement that stonewall are problematic and women's rights are being overlapped by male rights

Then a HUGE ESSAY by a TRA

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 12/10/2022 12:44

BDSM and men who work in health care can’t be that big a world. Bet Dave and Mr Fetish know each other. I don’t care about your kink, but I won’t want to know about it

stealtheatingtunnocks · 12/10/2022 12:42

The Carr report about bullying in nursing - seems to be centred around a man in the exec who teaches bindage. Is this diversity? Every guverning body needs a kink representive?

tonybasil · 11/10/2022 21:30

Glad to be here @Calyx72 I am amazed at how this nonsense has taken over the birth /women's health world. Women providing women-centred care who can't see how damaging this ideology is.
Personally, I just make a point on my social media, website and in person to continue to use gender-specific language. I am involved with a local birth workers networking group and unfortunately a few have succumbed, thinking it is progressive and inclusive to use words like pregnant people. I did challenge it and the response was disappointing. They are only following the lead of our local maternity services though who are also guilty of it.

Calyx72 · 11/10/2022 17:53

Hi @tonybasil welcome and well done for keeping 'mother' instead of the 'birthing person' shenanigans, thank you! How has it been for you? Has it been discussed?

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tonybasil · 11/10/2022 16:18

Just come across this thread and wanted to say 'hi' as a GC physio proudly working in women's health. There are no 'birthing people' on my watch - much to the upset of my local networking group.

Calyx72 · 10/10/2022 22:33

The link to the resource doesn't work but if you search for it, the post itself appears to be from 2017 (the comment is from this month though)

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vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 10/10/2022 20:53

Can any of you see this? It won't let me CSP trans treatment access.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 03/10/2022 21:10

I meant "woke" not "joke"! Though, sometimes a typo fits.

I don't understand allyship at all. It looks to me like "don't be a dick" fits for anyone with any difference or none. I can't understand why gender is all special. Or why sex is, as you say, not.

AppleTreeOwner · 03/10/2022 16:37

Thank you. The CSP allyship link is very informative to say the least.
I asked local CSP steward for clarity ; they had attended a CSP webinar about allyship ( not specific to this issue, wider EQI but included many of the points in the link). They plan to do an outline of allyship in the ‘ general sense’. Not attended yet so unable to comment on the full content.
Presently not convinced that members would be supported when it comes to sex based rights, it looks like it has been ideologically captured in many areas. Let’s hope that the new chair of council is open and more politically aware of the wider issues.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 03/10/2022 13:34

Is this what you mean about allyship from the CSP, @AppleTreeOwner?

I'm keen to understand and respond to this. We havea new chair of council, and I don't think he has made any statement on gender. He has pronouns and the jokes like him but I am hopeful.allyship page on csp site

Greycatwhitepaws · 03/10/2022 11:13

@AppleTreeOwner Apologies, can you please expand what you mean, I don’t understand.

AppleTreeOwner · 03/10/2022 07:12

Sorry, been posted on mums net under the the sex and gender discussions section.

vivariumvivariumsvivaria · 02/10/2022 20:26

What sort of stream, Apple?

Sorry if this is a stupid question!

AppleTreeOwner · 02/10/2022 19:01

In case anyone is interested. A stream has just been started about the Health and Care LGBTQ+ Inclusion Framework that has just been launched by the NHS Confederation.
Found out about it from local CSP rep.

RadFizz · 01/10/2022 18:34

PogueMahoneBoris · 01/10/2022 00:08

Now tagged :
Seen this about one of your Physios on your Equality, Diversity and Belonging Committee members @KMiddletonCSP @RobYeldham @IshmaelBeckford? May I suggest some additional training is required so they don't continue in their gaslighting of women (& presumably patients).
twitter.com/Obsolesence/status/1575963225493213184?t=WnWkBzEZpHykThr7oUD1DA&s=19

No response from any of them, although they've found time to tweet about other things today. Cowards.

PogueMahoneBoris · 01/10/2022 00:08

Now tagged :
Seen this about one of your Physios on your Equality, Diversity and Belonging Committee members @KMiddletonCSP @RobYeldham @IshmaelBeckford? May I suggest some additional training is required so they don't continue in their gaslighting of women (& presumably patients).
twitter.com/Obsolesence/status/1575963225493213184?t=WnWkBzEZpHykThr7oUD1DA&s=19

Greycatwhitepaws · 30/09/2022 22:41

I couldn’t give a toss what J does at a weekend but the lack of empathy and is astounding. How embarrassing 😳

Calyx72 · 30/09/2022 22:35

It doesn't seem to matter what he puts up Angry

I really really feel this is double standards

We are so afraid to be feminist and gender critical

He can say "cis people don't long form comment" when asking for trans feedback on a previous thread

And he is so obviously anti-female

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Greycatwhitepaws · 30/09/2022 22:34

Done already

RadFizz · 30/09/2022 22:32

the tweet. Heaven forbid I misgender him!

RadFizz · 30/09/2022 22:26

Someone should take a screen grab of them tweet because he'll either delete it or lock his account down by morning!

Greycatwhitepaws · 30/09/2022 22:25

i don’t think that it’s unprofessional to share this

Calyx72 · 30/09/2022 22:21

Oh my God.

That is brilliant

Thank you ScotFeminists

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stealtheatingtunnocks · 30/09/2022 22:19

thid might be what makes get a Twitter account so I can tag them