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Fallon Fox

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AmericanSlang · 17/06/2020 10:13

Can't see a thread about this, which has enraged me this morning - Fox bragging (on a JKR tweet to a child!) about beating up women

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DrBlackbird · 04/06/2026 12:03

Yes, zombie thread but posting so I can access the medical info more quickly.

xJodiex · 19/06/2020 07:38

I hope that peaktransed loads more folk.

BuzzShitbagBobbly · 18/06/2020 09:44

Fallon is getting reamed in this discussion by @rationallytrans, who is a transman

Fallon replied with this (pic)

I somewhat circuitously, professionally know Chris Mosier (another FtM, and heavily involved in sport). So right in Chris's ballpark. But Chris has no interest in saying anything about FF's vile comments, let alone anything that would even be a whisper of a smell of a hint of condemnation.

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Bananarama101 · 18/06/2020 09:25

Quite a long article, but a interesting read about male/trans sporting advantage:

sportsscientists.com/2019/03/on-transgender-athletes-and-performance-advantages/

Also an interesting paper that has looked at the advantages being maintained even when testosterone suppressed to sporting guideline levels:

www.preprints.org/manuscript/202005.0226/v1

Enderthedragon · 18/06/2020 09:18

Has Pink News, who love raking over everything said on Twitter, covered this yet? Has feminist extraordinaire Jamil chastised Fallon Fox for bragging about violence towards women? Has Owen Jones, who so 'passionately' cares about women's rights, written a piece in the Guardian about such misogyny?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/06/2020 09:13

I’m now also wondering if FF is trying to take the ‘Top Sherpa’ award from McKinnon / Ivy.... certainly doing some heavy lifting for us at the moment.

I've said before, I think they compete to one up each other in awfulness. You think no one can go lower, someone always proves you wrong!

ItsLateHumpty · 18/06/2020 08:58

SunsetBeetch Shock although I’m not sure why, but anyway looking at that booking sheet, only gender is asked for so can I assume this arrest for domestic battery would have been recorded under female sex stats?

SunsetBeetch · 18/06/2020 08:05

Doesn't only beat up women inside the ring either.

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ItsLateHumpty · 17/06/2020 23:44

It has the same string, .../PohHR, as the archived page in archive.fo so I assume that archiving in archive.fo also archives in archive.li and vice versa.

That’s good to know - thanks 😊 I didn’t even think to check the URL in .li

That whole twitter feed is a dumpster fire for FF - getting ratio’d in the main, but still a few likes from other women haters.

I’m now also wondering if FF is trying to take the ‘Top Sherpa’ award from McKinnon / Ivy.... certainly doing some heavy lifting for us at the moment.

LouHotel · 17/06/2020 20:54

Was just about to post about rationally trans, I love that conversation.

PrincessConsuelaVaginaHammock · 17/06/2020 19:06

Fallon is getting reamed in this discussion by @rationallytrans, who is a transman who was apparently the US military's only openly trans recruit in 2018 and who acknowledges his female biology.

twitter.com/rationallytrans/status/1273009445644181505

He seems quite frankly out of Fallon's league in terms of sense, actual accomplishments and decency. But then, dare I say it, female socialisation...

Oncewasblueandyellowtwo · 17/06/2020 17:58

Stealhsquirrel

Yes they are great, thank you for that.

nauticant · 17/06/2020 17:26

ItsLateHumpty: I put the original URL of the twitter page into archive.li and found the twitter page already archived:

archive.li/PohHR

It has the same string, .../PohHR, as the archived page in archive.fo so I assume that archiving in archive.fo also archives in archive.li and vice versa.

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 17:05

Remember too, that regardless of the specific capabilities of each individual in relation to another, having boys and men competing against girls and women makes a complete mockery of legislation protecting equality for females.

It is not equality, in any sense of the word, when women’s places for scholarships, funding, sports and their chances of winning in competition in general are taken by men. And the same, as appropriate, for girls.

DandyMandy · 17/06/2020 17:02

Utterly disgusting and yet these people claim they're oh so oppressed? Give me a break. They're a bunch of incels but at least they're showing who they really are. Keep going TRAs, you're doing a great job exposing yourselves.

ItsLateHumpty · 17/06/2020 16:57

@nauticant cheers for the links and archive. I can’t open archive.fo, is there any way you can also archive the tweets to archive.li/ since the original has been deleted?

I can’t post too much else, because I’ll be deleted and banned but suffice to say FF is an abhorrent, morally bankrupt, pos.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:55

This lists male physical advantages.

Here's a link to how boys under 18 are able to beat the elite women's top sporting results. web.law.duke.edu/sports/sex-sport/comparative-athletic-performance/

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:51

Or this?

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:50

Does anyone have to hand the scientific differences between males & females in sport even if the male is taking hormones.

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Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 17/06/2020 16:42

Thanks Oncewas for the link to that undertheropes article about the convicted criminal Tara Wolf.

I find it very sinister that the violent misogynist and granny basher decided to study Krav Maga, and after failing at that discipline, went on to emulate the notorious Fallon Fox, by choosing to train in mixed martial arts, which under current UK rules allows him to use his huge physical advantages to batter women with complete impunity.

I was not aware that Tara had travelled to Thailand to hone their skills and wonder how the trip was funded?

Of course Thailand has a long tradition of accepting Kathoey or ladyboys, who, like the Samoan Faʻafafine, the Muxes of Mexico and the Hijras of India, make no claims to being actual women. In fact they are shocked and disgusted by the idea that males would want to, and would be allowed, to use their natural physical advantages to compete unfairly in women's sports.

In Thailand poor Tara had no choice but to fight a person of their own sex, because transwomen are not allowed to compete against actual women in Thailand, (or in Samoa).

From the photographs I was struck again by how wide Tara's shoulders are, and how long those attached arms are. Extended reach of that kind must confer an advantage. The other chap doesn't seem to feature in any of the pictures, so we can only speculate about the contrast between their respective builds, and any advantage the granny basher might have expected to have or how much it may have boosted their confidence before the fight started.

When asked how she feels about having to fight men, Tara says “I do think it’s unfair, but if I have to do it, I might as well use it to my advantage and get noticed”. She also adds that she’s doubtful she’ll ever be able to go pro, at least in the UK. Instead, she plans to “have an amateur career fighting women in the UK and then fight men in Thailand”.

I was very struck by how clearly Tara recognised the difference between being whacked by a male person compared to when he fights against woman.

after a barrage of blows, the referee stopped the fight. “I’ve never taken kicks like that before”, Tara smiled as she clutched her forearm,

Yet this does not seem to have decreased their desire to continue to use their own massively unfair advantage to beat up women in the UK.

The best news is that the Wolf announced they are not particularly attached to the UK and are open to relocating abroad. I hope that the lucky country is one like Thailand or Samoa, with sensible laws protecting females from violent males who would blithely use their unfair physical advantages to thrash them in women's sports.

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 16:41

Definite trigger warning for above thread - apologies, I forgot to include it. Definitely NSFW.

Ninkanink · 17/06/2020 16:40

Further reading on ‘women’ doing things that apparently would never happen here

RoyalCorgi · 17/06/2020 16:33

White male bodied person almost murders black man just doing their job - leaves him with life changing injuries. And it’s poor dear Lauren who is the victim according to the Guardian. The double think was so glaring it stopped me in my tracks. And I’ve been seeing the truth of it ever since.

Yes, one of the most shameful articles to appear in the Guardian. And by god, there's competition.

PopperUppleton · 17/06/2020 16:27

The vulnerable person being the woman with the broken face, or the gleeful man who smacked her? Confused

Shockedandbefuddled · 17/06/2020 16:07

You are all being very unkind about one of the most vulnerable people in society.