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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

It will never happen - resource thread.

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MipMipMip · 27/08/2018 18:24

I'm hoping Rowantrees will be a contributor on here! This is basically a thread to keep together stories of all the things that we have been told will never happen. Please put what the item is about as well as a link for clarity.

Thanks.

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Hearwegoagain · 15/03/2019 14:07

I am looking for instances where a female has been attacked by a male, and then is forced to refer to her attacker in court as 'she'.

I know there have been cases but I can't find them. Can anyone help?

Popchyk · 27/02/2019 17:00

Just to add to the "It will never happen" pile.

Another update to the Dundee Courier article about a man who identifies as a woman following young girls into the women's toilets in order to sexually assault them and film them.

The person was sentenced to a community order and the authorities sent this person to a women's hostel. Where women have to share a bathroom with this person.

Courier link

Mumsnet thread

Popchyk · 09/02/2019 14:27

No, not just crimes, Fingon.

Anything that some people say will never happen. Good to have all that stuff in one place so that we can refer back to them easily.

So those examples that you mentioned of lesbian sex largely featuring penises are precisely what we were told would never happen.

FingonTheValiant · 09/02/2019 13:49

Are we just meant to record crimes here? I'll ask them to remove this if so.

"No one is actually going to tell lesbians they have to have sex with TW. They are not being pressured or coerced'

During a row with my liberal feminist SIL last night about porn she decided to show me some "feminist", lesbian porn. The first page of results had a ludicrous number of real penises, being used to penetrate and receiving oral sex. One bepenised person had a lesbian on either side, fondling and licking him. And that was a site devoted to hosting porn for lesbians. How is that not insidious brainwashing?

And a tragic number of mastectomy scars.

Popchyk · 08/02/2019 20:58

I'll just stick this here also. Just to keep stuff in one place.

This was the Dundee Courier article last week about a man who identifies as a woman following young girls into the women's toilets in order to sexually assault them and film them. Katie Dolatowski the name of the offender.

We are constantly told that this could never happen.

Mumsnet thread 1

Mumsnet thread 2

Popchyk · 08/02/2019 20:41

Just adding this.

www.theargus.co.uk/news/17418018.pervert-stewart-ogorman-admits-flashing-and-spying-on-woman/

"A PERVERT has been banned from public toilets after spying on a woman in a cubicle.

Stewart Ogorman was spotted by one woman lying down on the floor to look at her in the toilets at the Brighton Museum and Art Gallery in September.

Meanwhile in another incident in November, he unzipped his trousers and flashed his penis at a mother and her daughter, which was also recorded by the security cameras.

Brighton Magistrates’ Court was told that CCTV showed him repeatedly following women into toilets in the Royal Pavilion estate.

Ogorman, of Norfolk Square in Brighton, was ordered not to enter any women’s public toilets in the city of Brighton and Hove or to go into the Royal Pavilion estate where he committed the offences. "

But he'll be allowed in the ever-increasing number of mixed sex toilets in Brighton of course.

Ereshkigal · 31/01/2019 09:33

Another poster @HeyDuggeesCakeBadge posted this tumblr link which has many examples.

appropriately-inappropriate.tumblr.com/post/161606755575/the-tip-of-the-iceberg-please-add-to-this-list

Illyria47 · 28/01/2019 04:29

Archived

Illyria47 · 28/01/2019 04:29

I see gendetrender,wordpress.com is no longer available. It has been archive for violation of our Terms of Service. Wonder what they did?

Binglebong · 27/01/2019 20:51

Very violent transwoman incarcerated in women's prison. (Australia)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3491643-transgender-woman-splits-a-stranger-s-face-with-a-logging-axe

frazzled1 · 06/01/2019 11:40

Trans MtF activist Johanna Wolf (proponent of mixed sex changing rooms etc) convicted for sexual attack on a deaf woman. Wolf's chosen names, legal and otherwise, derived from the names of Nazis.

womenarehuman.com/transgender-proponent-of-mixed-sex-showers-locker-rooms-raped-deaf-woman-johanna-wolf/

Binglebong · 26/12/2018 14:00

Clearly perverted individual who claims to be trans (and get periods!) Who harasses young girls. Threatens to sue Miranda Yardley for printing their own words.

TRIGGER WARNING

mirandayardley.com/en/jonathan-yaniv-is-a-predator/

YouCouldBeMe · 10/12/2018 20:25

Following

Beagadorsrock · 02/12/2018 08:55

Scottish prison official (convicted of possessing loads of child pornography) had a hand in devising prison trans policy to make it easier to transfer (!) from the male estate

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3440219-Scottish-sex-offender-prison-official-Sunday-Times-story

arranbubonicplague · 01/12/2018 23:03

As an update, it seems that there was a concerted attempt to have the Karen White item declared untrue or a 'thing that never happened'. However, Snopes got involved and they have verified that the following claim is true :

Transgender prisoner Karen White (formerly Stephen Wood) of West Yorkshire, England, who confessed to committing multiple rapes as a man, sexually assaulted female inmates after being transferred to a women's jail.

www.snopes.com/fact-check/male-rapist-transfer-womens-jail/

dangermouseisace · 18/11/2018 17:40

Woman sexually assaulted by man in gender neutral toilets, Bristol.

www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/man-arrested-after-women-sexually-810514

Binglebong · 16/11/2018 10:00

Under Stonewalled definition this murderer and necrophile would be considered trans.

Warning: description of what he did to corpses. Very graphic and unpleasant.

listverse.com/2016/11/03/10-gruesome-items-ed-gein-made-from-corpses/

NotTerfNorCis · 15/11/2018 20:13

It will never happen... trans-species.

Are we supposed to believe people can have an innate identity as another species now?

PebbleDashed · 15/11/2018 18:48

I think it's relevant because it shows the lengths sexual predators will go to to find victims.

PebbleDashed · 15/11/2018 18:47

This isn't specifically about trans, but this is about a man who joined the police force specifically to find victims. Needless to say he was allowed to find a few before they actually stopped him. And they expect women to trust police?

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-shropshire-46208724

OnTheDarkSideOfTheSpoon · 15/11/2018 15:56

Joani Walsh
@joaniwalshi
Just had a response from West Yorkshire Police double confirming they record offenders by self-ID. So Karen White's crimes will go down as female.

Binglebong · 15/11/2018 15:48

Female's will only be searched by police officers who "identify as women." (AKA male bodied in some cases)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3423318-Male-police-officers-can-intimately-search-women-New-guidance?pg=1&order=

Sarahjconnor · 15/11/2018 07:52

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GetOvaIt · 15/11/2018 07:44

"Woman" accused of raping 12 year old girl. From US

nypost.com/2018/11/14/woman-accused-of-raping-12-year-old-girl/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

arranfan · 10/11/2018 16:29

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