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New driver, stressful incident

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SilentAmberWasp · 09/11/2026 08:34

I passed fairly recently and I get tailgated often. I am doing 20 on 20 roads, 29-30 on 30 roads, going by my sat nav speed which appears more accurate than my car speedometer.

On Saturday I was driving down a B road which was National Speed limit, barely wide enough for 2 cars, it was about 3 miles long, hills and very bumpy. A young girl tailgated me almost the entire way, I was going over 50mph at some points so it's not like I was doing 20 or 30 on a nsl road.
People are going to say I should've pulled over, but she was so close to me I was quite scared to slow or stop as I felt she'd have gone into the back of me.
The road was so bumpy my sat nav fell off its mount, anyway about 2.5 miles in she overtook me, and I'm ashamed to say I gave her the finger. I don't know if she saw, but i was stressed.
I'm used to getting tailgated and I either just keep to my speed or let them pass where possible, but this was frightening.
I've read you can be fined for this, I lost my temper in the moment and I'm scared I'll be reported now. Any advice?

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MrsMoastyToasty · 10/11/2026 12:56

Just because she's in s hurry should not mean you are too.

rosie1959 · 10/11/2026 12:58

HappyLizard23 · 10/11/2026 12:49

I would say that giving someone the finger in public is doing something wrong

Not actually the crime of the century I bet there are not many drivers who at one time or another have given off similar signals I am pretty calm but the odd driver has received the odd rude signal or word ...actually prefer mouthing *anker but everybody to their own

HappyLizard23 · 10/11/2026 13:02

rosie1959 · 10/11/2026 12:58

Not actually the crime of the century I bet there are not many drivers who at one time or another have given off similar signals I am pretty calm but the odd driver has received the odd rude signal or word ...actually prefer mouthing *anker but everybody to their own

You said OP did ‘absolutely nothing wrong’, yet you are incorrect regardless of whether it is ‘the crime of the century’. I don’t think stable adults should go around making offensive gestures to each other regardless of prior acts.

Weeelokthen · 10/11/2026 13:11

If someone is tailgaiting you, slow down/pull over. Do not let them pressure you to go faster,

ForRedPoet · 10/11/2026 13:12

MungoforPresident · 09/11/2026 22:23

Just drive at whatever speed you feel safe at, regardless of the speed limit on that road. Even if you did ever need to drive at 30 on a 50/60 road, (though I know you didn't in this case), there is nothing wrong with that when the road conditions dictate slowing down to that speed.

Whoever is behind will have to handle it. Tailgaters who don't read the road conditions are found dead in collisions with tree trunks, walls, telegraph poles and lamp posts every day. Others are found high in branches after aquaplaning. Your ability to read the road, which you're already showing, is what will serve you. :)

This can be potholes (that were not there when the road was given 50/60 limit), puddles, fog, bad rain, ice, cyclists, cars coming the other way, high winds, fallen branches, bad road markings, oily surfaces, gravel, surface damage, animals likely to dart out (for example when driving through a forest or in the early morning on country lanes). There are so many reasons to go slower than NSL.

There is not a minimum speed limit but we need to be seen to make due progress given the limit and conditions.

Because you felt that driving at 50mph was already dangerous given all the potholes and the narrow lane (as well as having just passed your test), you were within your rights to go slower and whoever is behind would be irked but they also don't want a shunt, so focus on what is ahead, and what feels safe to you.

Sounds like you're doing really well, so don't let tailgaters get to you because even if you had been doing 60, there would always be someone urging you to go faster. Well done on passing and getting out there!

Edited

There absolutely is something wrong with driving down a 60mph road at 30mph!!!
Doing half the speed down a dual carriageway is ridiculous and a real safety issue. If a driver is not confident enough to be doing those speeds, they shouldn't be on the road.

Yes, we've probably nearly all had a twat on our bumper at one time or another, especially down a country lane, but only ever occasionally.
The OP says this happens to her all the time, not just on dark country roads. This suggests the issue is with her driving at an unrealistic speed.

Go on an advanced driver course, OP, it will help.

Gonedeaf · 10/11/2026 13:13

I slow down if someone tailgates me.

ForRedPoet · 10/11/2026 13:24

Gonedeaf · 10/11/2026 13:13

I slow down if someone tailgates me.

Again highly dangerous and sometimes a question on driving tests, which you'd get wrong.

Gonedeaf · 10/11/2026 13:39

ForRedPoet · 10/11/2026 13:24

Again highly dangerous and sometimes a question on driving tests, which you'd get wrong.

It isn't in the least bit highly dangerous, and in fact prevents me getting flustered by them. I just ease off the accelerator gently, so I will do say 25-27 instead of 30, widening up the space in front of me to allow them to overtake if they so wish.

HappyLizard23 · 10/11/2026 18:08

Gonedeaf · 10/11/2026 13:13

I slow down if someone tailgates me.

Incredibly dangerous. You shouldn’t be driving.

NerrSnerr · 10/11/2026 19:33

I don’t think that everyone that tailgates is doing it to be an arse. Some people are just poor drivers who if they’re going at a faster speed will only slow down when someone is directly in front of them and they’re just not thinking.

Your driving sounds fine and it is normal not to drive 60mph on a county NSL road, especially when you’re unfamiliar with it.

it’s also fine to slowly ease off the accelerator if you’re feeling under pressure, of course not brake sharply but it’s safer to be going slower if you feel someone is dangerously driving near to you.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/11/2026 23:47

HappyLizard23 · 10/11/2026 18:08

Incredibly dangerous. You shouldn’t be driving.

Edited

Rubbish.
if someone is tailgating, the only method you have to make their inadequate stopping distance less potentially catastrophic is to slow down until you can safely pull over.
Obviously you don’t slam on your brakes but driving at a speed appropriate to conditions surely means you’ve got to consider not only whether you can stop if there’s a hazard round the next corner but whether they can too.
It’s tailgating which is incredibly dangerous - whether it’s due to the driver being an arse or a poor driver (though of course, someone who does this to be an arse is a poor driver) and it’s them who shouldn’t be driving.

ErrolTheDragon · 10/11/2026 23:59

ForRedPoet · 10/11/2026 13:12

There absolutely is something wrong with driving down a 60mph road at 30mph!!!
Doing half the speed down a dual carriageway is ridiculous and a real safety issue. If a driver is not confident enough to be doing those speeds, they shouldn't be on the road.

Yes, we've probably nearly all had a twat on our bumper at one time or another, especially down a country lane, but only ever occasionally.
The OP says this happens to her all the time, not just on dark country roads. This suggests the issue is with her driving at an unrealistic speed.

Go on an advanced driver course, OP, it will help.

She said clearly that she’s driving at the right speed in 20 and 30 mph zones yet still getting tailgated. It’s really very common.

Velumental · 11/11/2026 02:42

Are you generally very anxious? If you feel you're be in nh tailgated constantly is it possible you're just overreacting to cars being too close to you?

Also what makes you think your satnav has more accurate speed than your car, it's definitely your car you should go by, I suspect you're driving slower than you think.

Iknownotreasonable · 11/11/2026 03:08

ForRedPoet · 10/11/2026 13:12

There absolutely is something wrong with driving down a 60mph road at 30mph!!!
Doing half the speed down a dual carriageway is ridiculous and a real safety issue. If a driver is not confident enough to be doing those speeds, they shouldn't be on the road.

Yes, we've probably nearly all had a twat on our bumper at one time or another, especially down a country lane, but only ever occasionally.
The OP says this happens to her all the time, not just on dark country roads. This suggests the issue is with her driving at an unrealistic speed.

Go on an advanced driver course, OP, it will help.

I think you maybe need some refresher lessons, not the OP.

Dual carriageway standard limit is 70mph, not 60.

Many 60mph roads are country lanes where it's dangerous doing 60. Someone completely rolled their car on one near me a couple of years ago, no collision, just tried a bend too fast. I've seen plenty of cars in ditches, hedges and once surprisingly high up in a tree due to driving too fast on these roads. And there's the horses, cyclists, pedestrians, tractors that could be just around that bend...

Ijwwm · 11/11/2026 03:36

Firstly, highly doubtful you’ll get into trouble, so don’t worry on that front.

Interesting re your reasons for not having P plates on your car. Personally, I like to see them, is a very visual indicator that it’s someone “new” on the road, same as giving space and patience to an L plate driver.

With regards to flipping the bird, I’d veer towards don’t do that - yes, I know, it’s bloody tempting!

I’ve had two nuggets of advice that have stuck over the decades. The first was from my nan - mainly aimed at when pulling out from a junction - if in doubt, do nowt. That’s stuck with me - if I’m not 100% certain it’s safe, then I’ll wait a few seconds more. And I say this as a confident driver.

The other advice was, don’t worry about the person behind you. Your main focus is on what’s happening in front of you. You are not responsible for the reactions of the person behind you. Pretty much the only time that changes is when you see blue lights in your rear view mirror, then you need to start acting accordingly. The majority of the time, you are not responsible for your tailgater - it’s their responsibility not to drive into the back of your car.

Keep driving and building up your confidence. It seems like you’re trying to adhere to the speed limits. As many on MN say, it’s a limit not a target. Which is all well and good, but it can be annoying on an easy 60 limit road and the person in front is doing 35. The temptation for flipping the bird is strong 😂

TLDR: focus on what’s in front, don’t worry re who is behind you unless you see blue lights/hear sirens. The person behind has the responsibility of not colliding with you.

Gonedeaf · 11/11/2026 09:43

HappyLizard23 · 10/11/2026 18:08

Incredibly dangerous. You shouldn’t be driving.

Edited

You shouldn't be tailgating people. That's incredibly dangerous and you shouldn't be driving.

New driver, stressful incident
HappyLizard23 · 11/11/2026 09:55

Gonedeaf · 11/11/2026 09:43

You shouldn't be tailgating people. That's incredibly dangerous and you shouldn't be driving.

I don’t tailgate people, I also don’t get tailgated because I drive at the speed limit

LynneEast · 11/11/2026 10:03

Plmnki · 09/11/2026 20:47

If you are being tailgated all the time, you might be driving slower than you think. If you’re obviously and clearly holding up people and aren’t comfortable moving along, pull over.

i know people shouldn’t tailgate but I think you’re the problem here, as it’s an ongoing issue. You need to allow for the fact that speedos in cars under read and people who know roads well expect to be able to do 30 in 20:zones (not saying I agree or disagree but this is a thing). So if you’re doing 16 in a 20 zone it will be painful for others.

suggest doing an advanced driving course. Oh and don’t over think things! There is no way on earth anyone would have reported you, bloody hell.

Surely, you are not saying that the OP should take an advanced driving test in order to accommodate drivers who,

"know the roads well and expect to do 30 in 20 zones?"

Is it a thing now that we must accommodate those who want to ignore the law and do what suits them? Can we all set our own limit?

Will that also apply if I want to 100mph on a motorway that I know well and find it "painful" if others go just below the speed limit. If not, why not?

Will the police accept this as a reason if I go over the speed limit?

ForRedPoet · 11/11/2026 10:44

LynneEast · 11/11/2026 10:03

Surely, you are not saying that the OP should take an advanced driving test in order to accommodate drivers who,

"know the roads well and expect to do 30 in 20 zones?"

Is it a thing now that we must accommodate those who want to ignore the law and do what suits them? Can we all set our own limit?

Will that also apply if I want to 100mph on a motorway that I know well and find it "painful" if others go just below the speed limit. If not, why not?

Will the police accept this as a reason if I go over the speed limit?

Obviously that is not what @Plmnki is saying.
However, this is the real world. Driving excessively slowly can be just as dangerous as massive speeding.
For example, stuck behind a driver at 16 mph can increase the risk of dangerous overtaking, aggression, stress, lack of focus etc.

I presume from your comment you have never ever exceeded the speed limit then? And presumably never would. Even in an emergency you'd be happy pootling along behind the OP at 16mph!

If the OP is getting tailgated all the time, it suggests she is not going an appropriate speed for the environment
Or are you suggesting that it's just her bad luck to constantly be in front of racing demons?

Deathspren · 11/11/2026 10:47

If someone drives up your arse, your best course is to try and ignore them, and pull over at the next safest point to let the wanker go past.

You gain nothing by going faster or slower apart from getting stressed

LynneEast · 11/11/2026 10:52

ForRedPoet · 11/11/2026 10:44

Obviously that is not what @Plmnki is saying.
However, this is the real world. Driving excessively slowly can be just as dangerous as massive speeding.
For example, stuck behind a driver at 16 mph can increase the risk of dangerous overtaking, aggression, stress, lack of focus etc.

I presume from your comment you have never ever exceeded the speed limit then? And presumably never would. Even in an emergency you'd be happy pootling along behind the OP at 16mph!

If the OP is getting tailgated all the time, it suggests she is not going an appropriate speed for the environment
Or are you suggesting that it's just her bad luck to constantly be in front of racing demons?

You may disagree but those were the exact words she said: that is why I put them in bold.

Put a different interpretation on them by all means but that is what she said and I shall put repost her 20.47 post so that you can read it,

LynneEast · 11/11/2026 10:52

Plmnki · 09/11/2026 20:47

If you are being tailgated all the time, you might be driving slower than you think. If you’re obviously and clearly holding up people and aren’t comfortable moving along, pull over.

i know people shouldn’t tailgate but I think you’re the problem here, as it’s an ongoing issue. You need to allow for the fact that speedos in cars under read and people who know roads well expect to be able to do 30 in 20:zones (not saying I agree or disagree but this is a thing). So if you’re doing 16 in a 20 zone it will be painful for others.

suggest doing an advanced driving course. Oh and don’t over think things! There is no way on earth anyone would have reported you, bloody hell.

Here it is @ForRedPoet

Retro12 · 11/11/2026 11:29

Just brake a few times, they tend to back off!

SideBob · 11/11/2026 11:39

ForRedPoet · 10/11/2026 13:12

There absolutely is something wrong with driving down a 60mph road at 30mph!!!
Doing half the speed down a dual carriageway is ridiculous and a real safety issue. If a driver is not confident enough to be doing those speeds, they shouldn't be on the road.

Yes, we've probably nearly all had a twat on our bumper at one time or another, especially down a country lane, but only ever occasionally.
The OP says this happens to her all the time, not just on dark country roads. This suggests the issue is with her driving at an unrealistic speed.

Go on an advanced driver course, OP, it will help.

Yes! As much as I hate being tailgated by actual aggressive drivers, doing significantly under the speed limit is not safe.

And it also annoys and inconveniences normal drivers, not just the unhinged ones.

If you’re doing 30 on a 60 (unless it’s an actual country road) that’s terrible. You’d fail a driving test for undue progress.

Gonedeaf · 11/11/2026 12:25

HappyLizard23 · 11/11/2026 09:55

I don’t tailgate people, I also don’t get tailgated because I drive at the speed limit

I don't believe a word of this.

Perhaps you could try driving appropriately for the conditions like you're supposed to. That's if you even have a driving licence, which I highly doubt now given your responses.