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To think husband doesn't get to have it both ways re children?

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PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 07:16

My husband has two older children and we have younger DC together.

Since they have been older (12 & 14) he has got into the habit of leaving them at home at the weekend whilst he goes to work (SE so can definitely choose whether to go or not) often not telling me about this until the night before / day of.

He will say it doesn't matter because they are old enough to look after themselves so makes no difference to me. Fine.

I have taken to thinking well I'll just get on with my day then as normal if he says it makes no difference to me I.e. Still going out with the little ones etc..

He will make comments about this though sometimes like if I'm out over lunch time asking me if DSC have eaten, what they have for lunch, should be making sure they have something. Or even sometimes saying it's mean of me not to take DSC out with me if I end up going somewhere they might light for example I once had a trip to a big aquarium/zoo place planned with my sister and our younger children and he was pissed that I didn't immediately take DSC with me when I found out he had decided to go in work, instead they stayed home alone all day.

I just think he wants his cake and to eat it too. You can't say oh it makes no difference to you because they can look after themselves so I'm going out and then in the same breath moan about me not looking after them? Can they look after themselves or not? If they can then it shouldn't matter that I get on with my day, if they can't then he should be at home or at the very least asking me if it's okay.

What do you think?

OP posts:
CraftyBum · 04/04/2024 12:34

What a sad situation for the 2 kids having a Mum and Dad that don't give a shit about them. Then when they go off the rails it will be "awww not sure why that happened we done our best". Yeah right. Poor kids.

Iaskedyouthrice · 04/04/2024 12:35

My post was deleted again 😂 I'm going to assume the poster who actually wrote down the thing about Cinderella doesn't like it pointing out how ridiculous it sounded.
There is no point arguing with these people @PickledFrog as you are probably aware, far more is expected of you as a stepmother than the kids actual parents. Silly you for not playing along.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:35

CollagenQueen · 04/04/2024 12:34

I certainly wouldn't put the blame on her. Why would it be my exes new wifes responsibility?

You clearly have no idea of how powerless you feel, when your children are in the home of your Ex Partner and his new wife. You have zero control, and just hear about what goes on after the fact.

I have no doubt that these children feel excluded and like second class citizens. It's not their fault that their Dad had new children with a new woman. At least try to include them and make them feel like family, rather than an annoyance. It will pay in dividends as they grow up.

Their mum also leaves them home alone as I've said multiple times.

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Vod · 04/04/2024 12:36

CollagenQueen · 04/04/2024 12:34

I certainly wouldn't put the blame on her. Why would it be my exes new wifes responsibility?

You clearly have no idea of how powerless you feel, when your children are in the home of your Ex Partner and his new wife. You have zero control, and just hear about what goes on after the fact.

I have no doubt that these children feel excluded and like second class citizens. It's not their fault that their Dad had new children with a new woman. At least try to include them and make them feel like family, rather than an annoyance. It will pay in dividends as they grow up.

If you have no doubt, you're reading a great deal into this. The OP has said that when the DSC are asked, the large majority of the time they say no. There's nothing at all to indicate that they even give a shit.

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:36

Presumably OP, having been on the receiving end of this, would actually be holding her ex husband responsible, not his wife

Exactly. I'd think his ex was ridiculous if she had a problem with this and blamed me instead of y'know....their dad?

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HebburnPokemon · 04/04/2024 12:37

It will pay in dividends as they grow up.

Will it?

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:37

Vod · 04/04/2024 12:36

If you have no doubt, you're reading a great deal into this. The OP has said that when the DSC are asked, the large majority of the time they say no. There's nothing at all to indicate that they even give a shit.

They are perfectly happy. So far as I can tell. They like gaming, seeing friends, playing out whatever. At no point have they ever said they are arsed.

OP posts:
Lentilweaver · 04/04/2024 12:37

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:18

No

Well then, he's completely in the wrong. He is trying to avoid childcare. What he should be doing- since he has chosen to have 4 DC with age gaps- should be to come wtih you to soft play or the zoo in the morning on weekends, then come back, make lunch or whatever, and spend the second half of the day with his teen DC. I dont know any 14-year-olds who want to go to soft play on weekends with toddlers. They want to lie in and laze about.

I say this as someone who has spent a lot of weekends away from my teens. But they were with their biological dad who didn't work while I was away.

DramaLlamaBangBang · 04/04/2024 12:39

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:20

I would do this favour for my husband if he asked

He doesn't ask. That's the point. What he does is say it's fine, he doesn't need to ask because it makes no difference to me because they don't need any looking after.

Except that's obviously incorrect because he then has a mard that I haven't looked after them. So which is it?

Obviously the answer unfortunately for you is that youve married a man who cant be bothered to care for his own children and also doesn't want to pay maintenance. Do you have them every weekend? He can work on the weekends they aren't with you but he clearly can't be bothered to spend time with his own children at the weekend, or even make them some lunch and put it in the fridge for them. I'm not sure what the answer is apart from to make sure you are friendly to the kids, check they are OK but every time he guilt trips you, tell him that he is responsible for his own children, even the ones he can't be bothered to see ( which I presume also include his two toddlers that he presumably doesn't see because he's choosing to work 7 days a week)

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 04/04/2024 12:39

You’re both as bad as each other. No he shouldn’t be going to work but how can you just leave the kids to their own devices. The one that’s 12 I bet would have liked to have gone to the zoo. Poor kids.

HebburnPokemon · 04/04/2024 12:43

Did he want the kids (all of them) or was he indifferent and persuaded by the women to become a father? He doesn't sound invested at all.

Lentilweaver · 04/04/2024 12:47

HebburnPokemon · 04/04/2024 12:43

Did he want the kids (all of them) or was he indifferent and persuaded by the women to become a father? He doesn't sound invested at all.

He's a grown man. I don't know why we have to blame the scheming women. Especially not the OP.

Concannon88 · 04/04/2024 12:48

CollagenQueen · 04/04/2024 12:34

I certainly wouldn't put the blame on her. Why would it be my exes new wifes responsibility?

You clearly have no idea of how powerless you feel, when your children are in the home of your Ex Partner and his new wife. You have zero control, and just hear about what goes on after the fact.

I have no doubt that these children feel excluded and like second class citizens. It's not their fault that their Dad had new children with a new woman. At least try to include them and make them feel like family, rather than an annoyance. It will pay in dividends as they grow up.

What are you even on about? Its not the new children thats the problem. You've brought something up that is completely irrelevant. Do you think the dad wouldn't be working if he didn't have more children or the op would be more inclined to spend more time with them if she was childless? And she has tried to include them, read the thread!

housethatbuiltme · 04/04/2024 12:50

I have had step mothers... trust me as a teen the LAST thing I wanted was a day out with step mother and a much younger sibling. Maybe between 5-8 it was ok (although my father was always there too) but not at bloody 14.

Step kids are no different to normal kids. My 15 year old has zero urge to come to the soft play or park or chain restaurant with his younger siblings either. He would rather be at home playing PS5 with his mates.

GoldenSpraint · 04/04/2024 12:53

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dapsnotplimsolls · 04/04/2024 12:53

Does he work 7 days a week?

Anameisaname · 04/04/2024 12:54

PickledFrog · 04/04/2024 12:34

Well this is exactly my point.

But he says he doesn't need to because they don't need looking after so it makes no difference to me. That's his choice as their dad.

But then when I go about my day as if it makes no difference to me as he says it doesn't I then get comments about that.

My point is he can't have it both ways? They either need care at which point he needs to ASK and talk to me or they don't and he doesn't but that also means I may not be there / around either.

OP you are correct. Either he thinks they dont need care in which case it doesn't matter if you are or are not around or he does think it and then shouldn't be going to work.

However the point I think is being missed here is the attitude he has and whether you want to address that. Is it reasonable to leave young teens for the whole day? Is it something you want for your teens? What is his view on your relationship with the DSC and how is that playing into expectations of what you will do with them? There's a lot more here than the YANBU for not including them in soft play activities

DavidRosesEyebrows · 04/04/2024 12:54

As someone in a blended family I think this is fine. And incidentally it's my two that are older and sometimes left on their own, and dp has the younger two. My two would rather scratch their eyes out than go to soft play or whatever with the little ones. DP would get them lunch if he was in, but they are perfectly capable of getting themselves something if he didn't. If your DH is that worried about them being fed he can make them a packed lunch before he leaves for work.

InterIgnis · 04/04/2024 12:55

Itsnotallaboutyoulikeyouthink · 04/04/2024 12:39

You’re both as bad as each other. No he shouldn’t be going to work but how can you just leave the kids to their own devices. The one that’s 12 I bet would have liked to have gone to the zoo. Poor kids.

There’s no ‘but’ after ‘he shouldn’t be going to work’. His kids, his responsibility.

That said, why exactly shouldn’t she be okay doing that? The actual parents of these children have no issue with it. The mother doesn’t, anyways, the father says he doesn’t then sulks about it afterwards.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 12:55

Omg you keep reminding everyone that their mum leaves them home alone to go out at night etc...neglect. Why aren't you both going for full custody. How is that ok ? This proves you both dont give a shiny shit about either of them 😶 happy to slag her for doing it though. but happy to not have to pay any child maintenance by having them half the time and not looking after them properly either. Your house must be a barrel of laughs. You look after your children...he looks after his children...house sharing it seems to be just.

HebburnPokemon · 04/04/2024 12:56

Lentilweaver · 04/04/2024 12:47

He's a grown man. I don't know why we have to blame the scheming women. Especially not the OP.

God no! I'm not blaming the women. I'm blaming him for deciding to produce kids he didn't want.

Gettingbysomehow · 04/04/2024 12:56

Those children are not your responsibility, you are not the nanny.
He should be caring for them while they are with you.
He chooses to go off and work so he doesn't have to deal with it.

uneffingbelievable · 04/04/2024 12:58

OP - their mother leaves her children to be cared for by thier father. If he chooses to leave them with you during his time - that has nothing to do with her or what she does with her time - none of your business.

PErsonally I would not want to be the person infront of the judge when something bad has happened and you and your pathetic DP argue about who was looking after the 12 yr old.

You re point scoring gunst your DP, drip feeding to hustify your actions and you almost gloat in your actions and feel justified. This whole thread make me nauseous - 2 adults behaving like petty toddlers - grow the hell up both of you.

bellezarara · 04/04/2024 12:59

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 12:55

Omg you keep reminding everyone that their mum leaves them home alone to go out at night etc...neglect. Why aren't you both going for full custody. How is that ok ? This proves you both dont give a shiny shit about either of them 😶 happy to slag her for doing it though. but happy to not have to pay any child maintenance by having them half the time and not looking after them properly either. Your house must be a barrel of laughs. You look after your children...he looks after his children...house sharing it seems to be just.

A court would laugh you out if you suggested leaving a 14yo and 12yo alone at night or the day is neglect.

happy to slag her for doing it though.

OP hasn't slagged her off, she's just stating the reality.

Funny how even the actual parents leaving their kids is OP's fault now.

paulaparticles · 04/04/2024 12:59

It's not even that you leave them home alone cuz that's understandable to do sometimes...it's the lack of a caring role by yourself as a stepmum and how you don't see how you have responsibility to them in any shape....