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fucking Stephen Fry

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Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:00

I just feel I have no more time in my life for self-important older men. I’m sorry he hurt himself but the fact he got offered a painkiller doesn’t make a headline story. I feel like this type of man feels that everything they do is noteworthy

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/09/stephen-fry-given-addictive-opioid-painkiller-oxycontin-fall

Stephen Fry was given addictive opioid painkiller OxyContin after fall

Actor was prescribed controversial high-strength drug to prevent loss of muscle after complex fractures of leg, hip and pelvis sustained on stage

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/09/stephen-fry-given-addictive-opioid-painkiller-oxycontin-fall

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Blankspace4 · 10/12/2023 00:12

Age also equals life experience and SF has by all accounts experienced a lot. I think he did a good thing speaking up about his experience and presumably he took it for a few days in hospital, had his physio, got out and moved to paracetomal or whatever. Painkillers are not always the enemy. Only when abused. The US healthcare system is VERY different from the UK one. GPs were paid and taken on holidays to incentivise prescription of these strong drugs which are designed for serious illness or surgery for those suffering a minor workplace or sports injury. And they were given big doses and long courses. It wasn’t a hospital controlled argument.

Blankspace4 · 10/12/2023 00:12

*environment not argument!

Museum10664 · 10/12/2023 00:12

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:08

No, I don’t think he commissioned the story. But he did an interview where he highlighted this super amazing, fun and intriguing narrative.

Im just sick of pointless old men who think their lives matter tbh

Edited

in that case why do we have various biographies of different people ?

Chickenkeev · 10/12/2023 00:12

Nanny0gg · 10/12/2023 00:07

Well, he clearly doesn't as he's old.

Not to mention 'ugly'. Christ almighty. He might be posh, he might be rich but he certainly can't help being a man,or old, or how he bloody looks. That is such a low blow that undermines any argument. Ridiculous.

Nanny0gg · 10/12/2023 00:12

This reply has been deleted

We are taking this down as this is not in the spirit of the site.

Well, you're a charmer aren't you?

How clever do you think you are?

Tonight1 · 10/12/2023 00:15

Yeah things work differently on people - my mother didn't take to morphine at all so I had to speak to the hospital and get her on a different painkiller

Ortila · 10/12/2023 00:16

The issue here is the journalist who thinks that writing down a conversation she hears on the radio constitutes writing an article.

Tessabelle74 · 10/12/2023 00:17

Well I can't be the only one disappointed this isn't a sleazy sex scandal post surely? 😂

Anisette · 10/12/2023 00:19

Showmethesunny · 10/12/2023 00:05

I’ve repeated twice that I am genuinely sorry about the age comment. It wasn’t right. I meant to express that often a certain type of older man feels like they have an opinion that others (particularly women) would benefit from. I’ve experienced it (at 49) and therefore probably was too quick to jump to the ‘old’ terminology.

And yet you can't see that even this post is both ageist and sexist.

God knows, I've been treated to unwanted opinions from young men and women, middle-aged men and women, you name it. There is nothing unique to older men that means you are entitled to stigmatise all older men in this way.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 10/12/2023 00:19

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:08

No, I don’t think he commissioned the story. But he did an interview where he highlighted this super amazing, fun and intriguing narrative.

Im just sick of pointless old men who think their lives matter tbh

Edited

Really? I’m a pointless old woman and I think my life matters so why shouldn’t he?

I find you vulgar and arrogant.

CeciledeVolangesdeNouveau · 10/12/2023 00:19

It’s a bit of a non-story but there’s no reason for anger, surely?

Blankspace4 · 10/12/2023 00:19

@Ortila and highly selectively at that! The article pretty much implies he was coerced into taking it ‘to help the NHS’ when in fact in the interview he talked about how much it helped him in his hospital recovery from serious surgery

Anisette · 10/12/2023 00:20

SemperIdem · 10/12/2023 00:08

Having mental health issues doesn’t make a person beyond reproach.

It doesn't mean that gratuitous spite is acceptable, either.

Passepartoute · 10/12/2023 00:22

ANightingale · 10/12/2023 00:10

He didn't ask for the article to be written about him did he.

This isn't Steve Smith, the accountant, minding his own business who has unwillingly been thrust into the public eye. This is Stephen Fry, someone who sought and has had, a successful career as an actor and latterly a 'personality'. If he's not happy with that, he can retire.

When has he suggested he wasn't happy about that? The fact is that people find him of interest, hence his being invited for an interview on the radio and hence the newspapers picking up the story. Why should he be blamed for that fact?

dorriss · 10/12/2023 00:22

how extremely ageist of you.there are plenty of boring young men who think they are very important.not a big fan of his to be honest but dont like the ageism,

dorriss · 10/12/2023 00:24

dont call yourself pointless or old.you matter.

Yeahno · 10/12/2023 00:24

Let the old men shut up, and the old women too. Let them ago away and die. We only want to hear what young hot men have to say 🙂

sonrisa · 10/12/2023 00:25

dontbuyadell · 10/12/2023 00:00

Seriously??? Why be so vile towards someone who has known and debilitating mental health issues. Who has contemplated suicide in the past. He didn't ask for the article to be written about him did he. Why be so unbelievably cruel!

Reported

Wow. Chill.
You are right he can't help it if national newspapers pick up fascinating titbits highlighted in red by his PR team in the press release for his self promotion tour about him all the time.
Stephen if you are reading this, sorry mate, I know my opinion matters to you and I didn't mean to upset you.
Hope we're good @dontbuyadell 💝

dorriss · 10/12/2023 00:26

mumsnet has some seriously ageist people posting on it.they need to understand that they are targeting their future selves.anyway he is 66 which is not old,though he is an older adult.he is a bit of a fart though I agree and not that talented.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 10/12/2023 00:28

Showmethesunny · 10/12/2023 00:05

I’ve repeated twice that I am genuinely sorry about the age comment. It wasn’t right. I meant to express that often a certain type of older man feels like they have an opinion that others (particularly women) would benefit from. I’ve experienced it (at 49) and therefore probably was too quick to jump to the ‘old’ terminology.

When there is so much pressure to 'get by without medication' and not even offer the stronger forms because some other people abuse them, it is of interest to hear somebody with direct experience say 'I had it, I was reluctant, but my doctor said I needed it and I'm getting better now'.

They're not going to print me saying it because I'm nobody. But they'll print something said by somebody famous who had a terrible accident. Because that's far more interesting to people than anything I could say about it.

LadyWithLapdog · 10/12/2023 00:29

dressedforcomfort · 09/12/2023 23:13

I think it's newsworthy. When you know the story of the OxyContin scandal in the US and how it's literally destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives, you would balk at being offered it too. It's definitely not just 'a pain killer'.

Exactly.

There are a couple of books written about this. It’s a huge problem in the US.

I like SF. I don’t think he can help having a posh voice or being a middle aged white male.

Ortila · 10/12/2023 00:29

@Blankspace4 I haven't heard the interview but what you're saying makes sense. It reads like she's [the journo] just written down a random snippet she heard on the kitchen radio before she went to put the bins out (or whatever), come back to it a few hours later, thought "aye, fuck it, that'll do" and sent it for publication.

Pbjammy · 10/12/2023 00:32

You've missed the main issue here which is the absolute nonsense click bait article you've been sucked into. And have happily lapped up.

The Observer is trying to make it sound like Stephen Fry, who has had MH and addiction issues, is now popping Oxycontin. Because they want to attract people into their paper with scandal and misery.

RosesAndHellebores · 10/12/2023 00:33

@Showmethesunny wow! Ageist, anti a posh man and opening the door to disability discrimination all in a post intellectually titled "fucking Stephen Fry".

I'm still trying to unpick the meaning of "fucking Stephen Fry". The only correct interpretation I think is a reference to what it was like to fuck Stephen Fry. "Fuck" is a verb. To fuck, they fucked, she wanted him to fuck her..

Provocative you are; whether you are less boring than someone you have chosen to denigrate on a number of levels is debatable.

LoreleiG · 10/12/2023 00:37

Tessabelle74 · 10/12/2023 00:17

Well I can't be the only one disappointed this isn't a sleazy sex scandal post surely? 😂

I may have clicked on this thread to find out.