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fucking Stephen Fry

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Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:00

I just feel I have no more time in my life for self-important older men. I’m sorry he hurt himself but the fact he got offered a painkiller doesn’t make a headline story. I feel like this type of man feels that everything they do is noteworthy

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/09/stephen-fry-given-addictive-opioid-painkiller-oxycontin-fall

Stephen Fry was given addictive opioid painkiller OxyContin after fall

Actor was prescribed controversial high-strength drug to prevent loss of muscle after complex fractures of leg, hip and pelvis sustained on stage

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/09/stephen-fry-given-addictive-opioid-painkiller-oxycontin-fall

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Anisette · 09/12/2023 23:38

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:08

No, I don’t think he commissioned the story. But he did an interview where he highlighted this super amazing, fun and intriguing narrative.

Im just sick of pointless old men who think their lives matter tbh

Edited

He did an interview where he was asked about it. Someone at The Guardian thought it was interesting enough to do a story about it. And you thought it was interesting enough to read it, so they were obviously right.

And, in fact, over-prescription of Oxycontin is a very serious issue. Listen to this, if it's not too boring for you: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00050s0

BBC Radio 4 - File on 4, Opioids: A Painful Prescription?

Did marketing help fuel the UK's opioid addiction 'crisis'?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00050s0

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:39

@Tacotortoise I don’t understand this tbh as it didn’t happen

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Bobbotgegrinch · 09/12/2023 23:39

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:37

I am sorry. I need to clarify - it’s not his age. I am older, and I hate ageism I shouldn’t have said that. Apologies. I guess i meant it’s men of a certain age because of how they were brought up- thinking their opinions are so fucking important

But surely you realise that this is in the papers and on the BBC because they felt it was newsworthy, not Stephen Fry?

WandaWonder · 09/12/2023 23:39

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:00

I just feel I have no more time in my life for self-important older men. I’m sorry he hurt himself but the fact he got offered a painkiller doesn’t make a headline story. I feel like this type of man feels that everything they do is noteworthy

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/dec/09/stephen-fry-given-addictive-opioid-painkiller-oxycontin-fall

So you're sexist and ageist? Could we add homophobic in there?

TommyNever · 09/12/2023 23:40

Sounds like a nasty fall indeed, and given that he's a household name I'd expect a story or two about his recovery.

So yes you're being unreasonable, especially as you're under no obligation to read such articles, let alone post threads about them.

PyongyangKipperbang · 09/12/2023 23:40

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:37

I am sorry. I need to clarify - it’s not his age. I am older, and I hate ageism I shouldn’t have said that. Apologies. I guess i meant it’s men of a certain age because of how they were brought up- thinking their opinions are so fucking important

And AGAIN.........

He didnt write the article, he didnt ask the questions, he didnt create the issue that you are pissed off about.

This really is about you.

wellineverdidz · 09/12/2023 23:40

This reply has been deleted

We are taking this down as this is not in the spirit of the site.

OftIwandered · 09/12/2023 23:40

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:08

No, I don’t think he commissioned the story. But he did an interview where he highlighted this super amazing, fun and intriguing narrative.

Im just sick of pointless old men who think their lives matter tbh

Edited

Well Claudia Winkelman, or whoever books the guests for her radio show, presumably asked him to do the interview. He didn't gatecrash the studio. The Guardian then wrote a piece about the interview. So they aren't classing him "'pointless" either

Tonight1 · 09/12/2023 23:40

It's his career being in the public eye 🤷‍♀️

He does films, talk shows (nearly put talk shoes initially 😆) etc.

It's interesting when people talk about MH and addiction issues

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:41

Why on earth am I homophobic @WandaWonder. FWIW I am a lesbian but still not sure how you deduced that

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MrsSkylerWhite · 09/12/2023 23:41

howmethesunny · Today 23:33
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I’m 49 for all those incensed by my reference to his age. It’s not his age, it’s pompous man”

pompous women are irksome, too.

MelsMoneyTree · 09/12/2023 23:41

Considering the oxy addiction crisis in the US, it actually is quite interesting that UK doctors are prescribing oxy for falls. But Stephen Fry has no control over the article. It's a lazy rehash of a radio interview.
It seems as though you're trying to generate an angry thread over nothing. Go have a cup of tea / coffee / gin and maybe you'll feel less grumpy in the morning. In fact have a Xmas Biscuit too.

VoiceOfCommonSense · 09/12/2023 23:41

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:08

No, I don’t think he commissioned the story. But he did an interview where he highlighted this super amazing, fun and intriguing narrative.

Im just sick of pointless old men who think their lives matter tbh

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Who TF are you to call him pointless? Why do you think your life matters? What the hell have you ever done that makes you so important. He’s done more for people than you ever will you idiot.

Tacotortoise · 09/12/2023 23:41

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:39

@Tacotortoise I don’t understand this tbh as it didn’t happen

Go to your post of 23.33 and press on the edited button and you'll see your original post. It's right there.

MelsMoneyTree · 09/12/2023 23:42

Oh wait, is this one of those Tattle by proxy threads. I guess it's the right day and time for one Hmm

Blankspace4 · 09/12/2023 23:43

The Guardian have selectively represented this story - I heard the original interview today on R2.

This was in no way the basis of the interview. Upon describing how he recovered from the surgery, he did say he was reticent to take this drug (and YES I am very aware of its impact if abused and have watched the Netflix). It wasn’t so much “it’s for the NHS” - more - it will stop the agonising pain and allow you to sit up in bed the next day. Move your legs the following. Get into a chair the next. Start physio. Rather than fester in bed in pain.

this is what these drugs ARE FOR. When abused, clearly, they are awful. But poor show of the Guardian to present in such a way. Listen on iPlayer if you want the full context.

And no. I’m no particular fan of Steven Fry (and yes he was promoting a book - but most radio guests are) but I do feel strongly about blatantly sensationalist journalism

Fiftyand · 09/12/2023 23:44

I heard the interview on Radio 2 and it was actually quite interesting.

VyeBrator · 09/12/2023 23:44

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:08

No, I don’t think he commissioned the story. But he did an interview where he highlighted this super amazing, fun and intriguing narrative.

Im just sick of pointless old men who think their lives matter tbh

Edited

And I'm sick of ageist people, yet here you are 🤷‍♂️

Anisette · 09/12/2023 23:45

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:37

I am sorry. I need to clarify - it’s not his age. I am older, and I hate ageism I shouldn’t have said that. Apologies. I guess i meant it’s men of a certain age because of how they were brought up- thinking their opinions are so fucking important

Yes, we can all see you hate ageism. That would be why you used old age as a derogatory term in not just one, but three different posts. And "of a certain age" clearly means the same thing.

Anisette · 09/12/2023 23:46

Showmethesunny · 09/12/2023 23:39

@Tacotortoise I don’t understand this tbh as it didn’t happen

Yes it did. When you edit a post, we can all see what it said before it was edited.

PyongyangKipperbang · 09/12/2023 23:47

You hate ageism and yet you used "old man" to describe him as he is older than you......

I am older than you, am I an "old woman"?

LivStanshall · 09/12/2023 23:48

dressedforcomfort · 09/12/2023 23:13

I think it's newsworthy. When you know the story of the OxyContin scandal in the US and how it's literally destroyed hundreds of thousands of lives, you would balk at being offered it too. It's definitely not just 'a pain killer'.

I was given it after some surgery but I’m one of those people on whom it doesn’t work so was left in agony. Give me morphine any time.

LuluBlakey1 · 09/12/2023 23:48

Newspapers are full of pointless stories about celebrities every day. It really irritates me.
Today it's:
This Stephen Fry one- several papers have run it.
Jada Pinkett Smith saying she will never divorce Will Smith even though they live separate lives.
Jess Phillips MP reveals she has had breast reduction surgery to stop male MPs leering at her.
SCD stories, including Jade Goody's ex-husband giving interviews about her son's father.
IACGMOOH- trail of utter rubbish
Some actress joined a 'throple'

It is all pointless rubbish. We don't need to know any of it but it fills the websites of the dailies. And it does that because PEOPLE READ IT. Why? Why do people read any of it? It's mindless drivel that papers use to distract us from the things they don't want us to focus on. The D Mail fills article after article with it, as do The Mirrir, The Sun, The Express. The D Mail has barely mentioned a word of Johnson, Whitty, Valance, Cummings etc at the Covid Inquiry because they don't want us to read about it. But they run at least 8 stories a day on I'm a Celebrity.

I'm sick of all of it- of the female celebs who bare their bodies for cameras constantly and sell the photos to national newspapers. It's painful to see women still prepared to do this for attention. Men are not much better now. And the level of the stories about reality tv participants, Z list celebs - it's just sleazy rubbish. Nothing is private and not up for sale.

Are we really so shallow that anyone reads this stuff and follows these people? We must be or it wouldn't be there. It's one of the biggest indicators to me of how crass, drab and low-level many people's minds must be in our society. It's worrying.

I don't read it, I don't follow any of them and I don't watch any reality tv. I don't think anyone should but unfortunately I can't make that decision.

Loose Women and I'm A Celeb are mindless low-level trash.

SemperIdem · 09/12/2023 23:49

I find Stephen Fry quite irritating and misogynistic.

However, as others have said, this story is interesting due to the medication it involved.

His life isn’t inherently unimportant because he’s older, either. People do have a tendency to think their own lives are important, human nature!

2turtledoves · 09/12/2023 23:51

Tonight1 · 09/12/2023 23:06

He's actually quite shy in person with people he doesn't know

I haven't met him personally although having been in a London restaurant where he was sitting at a table a few feet away I thought he was lovely & the epitome of humility & kindness. As he was walking out I looked up & smiled & he nodded & smiled back 😊