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Is he cheating or have I lost my mind

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TheFrame · 27/11/2023 01:37

My husband and I have been together for 10 years, he is 34 I'm 32, we have 4 children ( 5, 3, 2 and 6 months).
Lately our life has been upside down. My parents are both ill, my dad has Alzheimers, my mum has cancer. Our eldest has autism and so much more. For DHs work we need to live in London, for the price of a 5 bed up north I'm in a 3 bed terrace with barely enough room to swing a cat, our youngest wasn't planned.
In the spring I noticed something was off with my husband, he seemed detached, I thought maybe it's the new baby? Maybe it's my parents being ill? Who knows. He always went for drinks on a Thursday after work for as long as I've known him, finish work at 5 couple of drinks and home no later than 8. It slowly started changing, 8.30/9/9.30 there's been a few times where it's been as late as 2am usually no later than 10.30 though. He used to want to have sex as soon as he got in from drinks, but that changed too. I spoke to him about it but he said he was tired. At this point I'm thinking fair enough.
Then he started going in on Mondays - he could work from home and there is no flexitime on Mondays so it's a long day 8-5:30 so I didn't think it made sense but the baby was distracting he said.
Then it was one of these Mondays where he message at 4 (so before he could actually finish) and said "tube delays will be late". I looked on the TfL app - only the central line was delayed, he doesn't use it for work ever!!
Now I'm suspicious but say nothing.
A few weeks later he tells me he forgot to tap out at the station could I log in and pay the fare. It showed me when I logged in the stations he is starting and finishing his journey at.
Tuesday and Wednesday are fine, tapping out at Green Park where he works - all good.
But on Mondays he's been tapping out and back in at Russel Square - for those that know London, you'll know this isn't near Green Park where he works. On Thursday he's been tapping in the evening at either Russel Square or Holborn. I'll assume he's walked there or something?
Suddenly I remember he works with a girl who lives around there, I remember as I once said "I don't know any one who lives properly central" he told me a girl he worked with lives between Farringdon and Chancery Lane .... which is near Russell Square and Holborn !!
I asked him about it and he told me he was working from a WeWork space around there on Monday and Thursday evenings as he found the baby distracting but didn't want to be in office? I didn't believe it for a second, bur said whatever. He must have realised I was suspicious and started sending me the confirmation of his booking for the WeWork space. I let it go as really I don't have any more evidence... this was 2/3 months ago.

Fast forward to a month ago, I ask to borrow his bank card, he tells me it's in the front of his work bag, I take out the card and I find a condom in there too!! While we do use them ... why in his work bag? I ask he claims must have been there for a while. Makes me feel a bit crazy for thinking.

Just to be nosey I guess, I try to find the girl who lived around the other area on Instagram. Didn't take long she's barely 23, stupidly beautiful which made me feel inferior!! Accounts on public, I'll be honest I made a fake account to watch her stories, I didn't want her to see me watching and alert DH. Every Monday she posts a story, of DH across from her at the WeWork place, with some stupid caption. When I ask if he works alone on Mondays he says yes?!
Then the last couple of Thursday evenings she has posted on her story something like a picture of two glasses of wine and a caption like "yes wine and dine me honey" never see the guy she is with, but in one you could see his hand, and I swear it was my DHs (the rings and the watch strap) he has quite an obvious ring as it has sand from our honeymoon in it using resin, so I know it off the top of my head.
I told him all this last week and he said yeah she comes for work drinks with us too and thought I was psychotic for checking her instagram. He let me read the messages between them on the phone and all seemed innocent. Went back as far as 2021, on WhatsApp, IMessage and Instagram. He said he's never messaged her on Facebook.
There was nothing untoward just work things occasional meme.
On Thursday before he went to work I checked the front pocket of his bag there were two condoms (swear there was one the last time when I was looking for his card). Looked again when he got home and there was only one!!
Now today he said he was going for lunch with work friends. I asked where he told me whatever. I checked her story again, and from looking at the decor of where she was and where he said they were doing it was the same place, it's also obvious in her post it's a table for 2!!
When he got back I checked the front of his bag again (as he took his work bag to lunch but fair enough he takes it practically everywhere like Dora the bloody explorer) and there were now 0 condoms ?!!!!!
I don't think I can tell him I've been snooping in his bag without knowing for sure I'm right.

But he's having an affair isn't he? Im not unreasonable to think that right? What the heck do I? Feel like a detective trying to figure it all out !!!

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CandyLeBonBon · 27/11/2023 01:49

At this point op you don't trust him. That's hard to regain and these suspicions don't just dry up. So you're going to be sat with horrible suspicions which will just eat away at you. If he's cheating it's unlikely he'll tell the truth so you either sit with it and wait and see, or you ask him. But you will drive yourself mad with this detecting, take it from me.

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Sertmos · 27/11/2023 01:52

Aw gosh, from everything you've said, it doesn't sound great. You really just need to ask him outright and get the answers you need. What you've said doesn't sound good but I know myself, I've built things up in my head before, sometimes right, sometimes wrong. Big hug either way. X

etmoiandme · 27/11/2023 01:53

Oh gosh OP, I'm not the type to shout LTB and like to give the benefit of the doubt, but it does sound like there might be something rotten in the state of Denmark there. I hope not though, you're already being put through the ringer as it is. I think you need to find out asap because the suspicion and not-knowing will make you ill and that's the last thing both you and your family need. Take care.

Tighginn · 27/11/2023 01:55

I'm so sorry. You have not lost your mind. Please keep what you have written here to hand and re-read, add to it, with anything new and don't let yourself be gaslit by this man.

ToBeOrNotToBee · 27/11/2023 01:56

Doesn't sound great.

Can you log into hid Google account and see his timeline?

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I think I'm severely hoping someone says "it's all in your head" I don't want my marriage to breakdown I love him it would tear me apart. Some of the other things while shadey could be explainable it's not impossible. The condoms less so. I really don't want to be right even though I'm pretty sure I am.

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Womencanlift · 27/11/2023 02:19

Your DH is a walking cliche isn’t he. Wife at home with the kids, distracted by, quite rightly, worrying about her parents. He feels “neglected” 🙄 and laps it up when someone flashes their eyelashes at him

Consider how you will feel, if you stick with him, every time he goes to work? You deserve better than that. So start the proceedings and get this waste of space out of your life (obviously he will still continue to be in it for the kids but not as your husband)

Pussygaloregalapagos · 27/11/2023 02:20

Sounds like he probably is. Have a think about what you would hope to get from a confrontation before you embark on one.

it might burn itself out as fast as it started so if you aren’t too stressed about it you could let it go.

If you want to break up with him get all stressed, prepped etc before announcing.

if you feel somewhere in the middle then start with a candid chat if you can bear too…. If not go straight for the chilli pepper on the condoms maybe…..

Sertmos · 27/11/2023 02:21

OP, you have kids ranging from 6 months to 5 years, right? I only have two kids, they're 2.5 years apart. I know that when my boys were younger my head was an absolute mess (they're 9 and 7 now, my head is only just recovering!). None of us here can tell you anything about your relationship, but you know, surely, you need to ask him the question. As hard as it might seem. I really hope that everything is innocent and he's not cheating but you have to ask him for yourself. X

Gabiabbi · 27/11/2023 02:30

It states in the OP she HAS asked, several times

BeFrankforonce · 27/11/2023 02:32

Yes he probably is. Have you considered getting a sitter and surprising him at the wework? She knows about your kids? Your parents? What a pair- the deserve each other. You deserve better.

Sertmos · 27/11/2023 02:37

Gabiabbi · 27/11/2023 02:30

It states in the OP she HAS asked, several times

But she needs to ask again, with all evidence and her concerns, only the two of them can get to the bottom of this.

Woopooh · 27/11/2023 02:40

If you’re an Apple user can you get one of those little GPS tags and secretly stitch it into the work bag and gather evidence so he can’t make you out to be crazy next time you approach the subject👀 sorry this is happening to you :(

AllrightNowBaby · 27/11/2023 03:11

Excellent idea from Woopooh, get the GPS tag stitched into his bag and you will have your definitive answer of whether you are losing your mind or he is seeing 23 year old.
Then make your mind up, what you want to do.

Sauvblanctime · 27/11/2023 03:14

Yes. He’s cheating.

sorry op.

EVHead · 27/11/2023 04:58

Yes he’s cheating. I’ve been there with the condoms in the work bag. Sorry this is happening to you.

Could you hire a private detective to see where he goes, and with whom?

EmmaGrundyForPM · 27/11/2023 05:07

I think he's cheating, and he's gaslighting you in the process.

You need evidence before you do anything. Otherwise he will just deny and get craftier at hiding it.

isthismylifenow · 27/11/2023 05:23

Always listen to your gut OP.

And do not let him mess with your head. You have a lot of evidence and he will have some story for everything.

You have asked on numerous occasions and he has likely lied to you every time.

Put the air tag in if you have one, but I think you have done a pretty good job of tracking him already.

I am sorry you are going through this.

CherryBlossoms88 · 27/11/2023 05:32

Your gut is telling you something isn’t right and I would trust it. I had the exact same feeling and I was right! The only difference was I didn’t have 4 kids so I listened to it a lot more quickly as I had less to lose!

I’m so sorry you are going through this! I can also see why you are hoping people would say it’s all in your head, as you don’t want to believe it and burst your family bubble! You have 4 kids and your husband is a selfish bastard, if it’s true ( you’ve also got a 6 month old) so tough!!!! These men only think with their dicks when life gets tough, it’s pathetic.

Possibly keep watching her stories to gain more evidence and something more solid if you can stomach it. Otherwise I think what you have gathered is strong enough to confront him.

Shoxfordian · 27/11/2023 05:35

It definitely seems like he's cheating to me, such shady behaviour.

strawberrysea · 27/11/2023 05:40

I'm so sorry, it does read as if maybe he is cheating :'( what an absolute bastard. Cheating is terrible anyway of course but given your circumstances he's psychopathic.

As pp has said if the 23 year old knows your personal circumstances she is equally as morally repugnant and they really do deserve each other.

MsDogLady · 27/11/2023 05:40

Yes, he is cheating and has been gaslighting you right, left and center.

He became detached last spring.
He changed his Monday and Thursday work routines to be with OW.
He lied that he works alone on Monday.
He is arriving home later on Thursday nights and is not wanting sex.
He is her ‘honey’ who is ‘wining and dining’ her on Thursday evening dates.
His recent lunch with ‘work friends’ was really a cozy lunch date with her.
He is taking condoms in his work bag to use with her.

Get angry, @TheFrame. He’s been having an affair since before your baby was born. He has robbed your agency and consent, and risked your and the baby’s health. He a massively selfish pig who feels entitled to cheat, lie, and manipulate you.

He is betraying you and the children at this time when you most need his love, support and loyalty. How dare he harm you like this so he can chase cheap thrills and ego cookies.

I would consult a solicitor to learn about your options.

Whattodowithit88 · 27/11/2023 05:44

Yes he is cheating. What is it that you need? To walk in and actually see them shagging before you believe it? What’s the chances of that, very unlikely I imagine.

Connect the dots…..if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck….it’s not a cat is it.

What a scumbag he is.

Whattodowithit88 · 27/11/2023 05:47

When she posts something cost again with your husband you should go on your rea account and message her, let her know his your husband (as she could have no idea his married) and then see what she says. Just so your aware though, the ow may lie and say their just friends even though she is shagging him.

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