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Fuck fireworks

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FenFairy · 05/11/2023 19:09

Every single person setting them in their gardens is an arsehole.

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tpxqi · 05/11/2023 21:53

Eleganz · 05/11/2023 21:50

It is the same argument every year, largely one set of people who have made a lifestyle choice (to own a cat or dog or other pet) Vs another set of people who have made a lifestyle choice (to celebrate a traditional festival with fireworks). Cue a few people raising the ante with PTSD largely of a type not suffered by the women who post on this forum and you get the shit show that is this thread every year. It's pretty dull now.

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Oh no, the batshittery has reached a whole new level this year. OP is complaining because she is traumatized by global conflicts. Despite probably never having travelled further than stoke on Trent.

knowthescore · 05/11/2023 21:54

FancyFanny · 05/11/2023 21:18

So what if 74% support tighter regulations- it's only 23 % of veterans that are negatively impacted! It's their problem in my eyes- they chose to be soldiers and fight in wars- they should take steps to protect themselves from their anxieties afterwards. I don't see why fireworks should be banned. I'm all for regulating the size of those sold to the general public and regulating the days they can be used to a day or so either side of Nov 5th. However, we then need to regulate for other times too. Divali, Eid and NYE celebrations etc. sees lots fireworks being set off too.

So you'd have been happy for the Germans to invade us unopposed during WW2?

You only get to choose not to be in the armed forces because someone else chooses to be in them. Someone's got to be ready to defend the country, if everyone refused, the Govt would conscript by lottery they way they do with jury service. Whilst we shouldn't deify those people who serve and have served this country, they do deserve compassion and decent treatment.

The veterans' charities aren't demanding a ban in any case. They are demanding a shorter sales period to reduce the burden on veterans with PTSD to a manageable level. I've had fireworks around me for over a week here and if they affected me to the point of diving for cover when I heard one, I would be unable to work or drive for that whole period. Bringing it down to one or two days would make veterans' lives easier.

The 51% who support tighter regs even though they are not personally affected are doing so because they have empathy for their former comrades who are affected, a quality that is sadly lacking amongst many posters on this thread.

knowthescore · 05/11/2023 21:56

crochetmonkey74 · 05/11/2023 21:44

However sad and terrible this is, and I agree it is, this is a very small percentage of the population. Should rollerskating be banned as some people don't have feet?

Rollerskating doesn't cause PTSD in other people. It's not a valid comparison at all.

luxuryinteriors · 05/11/2023 21:56

Halloween: Americanized/begging/ tacky/terrifying OAP's ✅

Bonfire Night: terrified toddlers/crying and shaking/won't somebody think of the sheep ✅

What's the next in the sequence?

It's nice to know that in a world gone mad the same old bollocks is trotted out year after year on MN ❤️

Mothership4two · 05/11/2023 21:56

So, did you move out of the rural area? We did

Or ask for shotguns to be banned? Ask who?

That's your reply to someone who posts about their pet dying?

However sad and terrible this is, and I agree it is, this is a very small percentage of the population. Should rollerskating be banned as some people don't have feet?

Really? Dismissing veterens? This is wrong on so many levels. Some of this small percentage don't have feet noe either.

I'm sure/hope you are not like this IRL but you are coming across as incredibly cold on here @crochetmonkey74

FunCatSunPat · 05/11/2023 21:57

So you'd have been happy for the Germans to invade us unopposed during WW2?

Come on folks, we've almost hit Godwins Law! Just a few more posts and I think we'll crack it!

Stressedafff · 05/11/2023 21:58

Ah yes that common link, the Germans of 1939 and Bonfire Night in the UK

luxuryinteriors · 05/11/2023 21:58

Wibble

Mothership4two · 05/11/2023 21:58

Another 'hive mind' comment. Most dog owners are responsible @Stressedafff

Beetlebumz · 05/11/2023 22:01

Sorry but you are the one who sounds like the selfish arsehole! You want a tradition that has been around for hundreds of years to be banned just for you!

knowthescore · 05/11/2023 22:02

crochetmonkey74 · 05/11/2023 21:46

So, did you move out of the rural area? Or ask for shotguns to be banned?

Not comparable. You can move away from where there are shotguns used, but there is nowhere free of fireworks. I deliberately chose a house several miles from where the big professional display is held each year to protect DCat, and still my neighbours set the dratted things off in their gardens.

The irony is that, were Joe Public to stop using fireworks and go to the pro displays, I would go to the pro display as well because Dcat is far enough from it not to be bothered by it. As it is, I am stuck indoors night after night caring for a terrified cat.

Scoobyblue · 05/11/2023 22:04

I like fireworks and go to an organised display every year. I live in central London and haven't noticed anyone setting them off in their garden close by this year. There are lots of organised council run displays to go to so maybe that's why. It tends to span a couple of nights so that neighbouring boroughs aren't competing with each other. And I can hear tonight's still going on now so it is later than many posters on here would like.
I don't think fireworks should be sold to individuals for safety reasons and because I think that it's disruptive to neighbours but to cancel all fireworks is (to me) unreasonable.

GrittyTunnocks · 05/11/2023 22:05

FunCatSunPat · 05/11/2023 21:57

So you'd have been happy for the Germans to invade us unopposed during WW2?

Come on folks, we've almost hit Godwins Law! Just a few more posts and I think we'll crack it!

He had fireworks on his birthday in 1943 so I think we know that fireworks are NAZI.

knowthescore · 05/11/2023 22:06

FunCatSunPat · 05/11/2023 21:57

So you'd have been happy for the Germans to invade us unopposed during WW2?

Come on folks, we've almost hit Godwins Law! Just a few more posts and I think we'll crack it!

It's not my fault that your reading comprehension is so poor that you failed to understand my point about military service not being a truly free choice because someone must do it.

I was replying to someone who was literally victim-blaming war veterans for having PTSD and you picked up on the one thing that could, by a determined enough troll, be twisted into Godwin's Law, namely the last time that we faced a credible invasion risk. That says far more about you than it does about me.

knowthescore · 05/11/2023 22:09

but to cancel all fireworks is (to me) unreasonable.

@Scoobyblue has anyone actually called for that? I haven't, veterans haven't, pissed-off tubists haven't.

vandctime · 05/11/2023 22:11

We have pets and kids and it has never been a problem. Live a little

Itsnotchristmasyet · 05/11/2023 22:17

I don’t think they need to be banned completely but there should be stricter rules.

It should be on one night only.
When people let off fireworks for new years they don’t also let them off on the other days too, so why is it done for fireworks night.

You should not be able to buy them in a shop and let them off in your own garden or on the street.

I just saw a video of a little twat letting one off on a bus.
And every year there are always injuries, fires and cruelty to animals all because it’s too easy to buy them.

LadyWiddiothethird · 05/11/2023 22:17

Cannot stand the bloody things! Sign of the times that people let them off any day they feel like it,years ago it was 5th November ONLY and they weren’t so loud.

Every year I sign petitions and every year nothing happens.

DevonWindyWeather · 05/11/2023 22:23

I have an older dog and a puppy. I took puppy into garden tonight to get used to them, older dog ignores them. Not sure if some dogs pick up on annoyance or stress/anxiety of owners. Children may do so too perhaps?

Different areas might struggle if they go on for weeks. Only a few nights around here so tv up and curtains closed. They also seem quieter this year, or I'm deaf.

Mademetoxic · 05/11/2023 22:32

Beetlebumz · 05/11/2023 21:44

God it’s not the end of the world hearing a few fireworks once a year. Get a grip.

Would you be happy for people to walk into a shop and just buy a gun?

TrashedSofa · 05/11/2023 22:32

Desecratedcoconut · 05/11/2023 19:21

Ah, bonfire night, the one night a year when cat owners give a shit about the local wildlife

😂

DevonWindyWeather · 05/11/2023 22:37

luxuryinteriors · 05/11/2023 21:56

Halloween: Americanized/begging/ tacky/terrifying OAP's ✅

Bonfire Night: terrified toddlers/crying and shaking/won't somebody think of the sheep ✅

What's the next in the sequence?

It's nice to know that in a world gone mad the same old bollocks is trotted out year after year on MN ❤️

This made me smile, thanks 😊

BeadedBubbles · 05/11/2023 22:38

@Harrysarseinthedogbowl

Well, presumably it was your choice to get a nervous rescue dog rather than one that can tolerate normal life going on around it.

Erm - well yes. And I was very happy to give her a home after her bad start to life. Not sure what point you are attempting to make?

Womencanlift · 05/11/2023 22:44

luxuryinteriors · 05/11/2023 21:56

Halloween: Americanized/begging/ tacky/terrifying OAP's ✅

Bonfire Night: terrified toddlers/crying and shaking/won't somebody think of the sheep ✅

What's the next in the sequence?

It's nice to know that in a world gone mad the same old bollocks is trotted out year after year on MN ❤️

Well the Christmas isn’t enjoyable and it just causes burn out threads have already started. So I guess they will ramp up even more as soon as the firework threads are over

DevonWindyWeather · 05/11/2023 22:44

Hopefully @FenFairy the noise has stopped now, your child is sleeping and dog in bed.
You sound extremely stressed, glass of milk and bed for you. Sex can helped relax if struggling still.

Breathe and try a few less angry words, mindset makes a massive difference 👌