Repeat sex offender with convictions under different names contacts woman online using male name. Judge stops prosecutor halfway through and insists on female pronouns.

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PalatineUvula Fri 29-Mar-19 15:03:56

There is a whole list of things that would never happen here.

www.northantstelegraph.co.uk/news/northants-transgender-sex-offender-used-fake-identity-to-speak-to-woman-on-facebook-1-8869416

The quick summary is:

* someone whose birth name the journalists can't be bothered to clarify (worried about transphobia?) has a habit of using many pseudonyms to contact women online
* this person is a registered sex offender
* this person appeared on the court lists as 'Mr', possibly using the name 'Chloe Walker'
* there is a 'Sexual Harm Prevention Order' in place specifically prohibiting them from using pseudonyms online without notifying the police
* this apparently did not stop this person changing name to 'Chloe Walker' and 'becoming a woman', because obviously that's much more important than preventing sexual harm
* despite the (legal?) identity as a woman and Chloe Walker, this person apparently exclusively identifies as male when contacting women online, in the current case using the name 'Jamie Thornton', and previously having used 'Brendon Walker', 'Steven Walker', and 'James Walker'
* the prosecutor begun proceedings by using 'he/him' pronouns to refer to Jamie/Brendon/Steve/James/Chloe (they/them, surely?) but was stopped by the judge and ordered to use female pronouns

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PalatineUvula Fri 29-Mar-19 15:06:04

just to clarify, the reason for the case was Jamie/Brendon/Steve/James/Chloe was using the name 'Jamie' online to contact women, without having notified the police, which was in violation of the Sexual Harm Prevention Order.

Jamie/Brendon/Steve/James/Chloe has just got out of prison, but was not sent back, despite the breach, but instead was given a suspended sentence.

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PalatineUvula Fri 29-Mar-19 15:06:58

Obviously Jamie is a fake name and it's very wrong to use that. But Chloe is a totally true and honest name, and it's vital that it be respected by the prosecutor.

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PalatineUvula Fri 29-Mar-19 15:10:27

There's a Liberal Democrat councillor here: twitter.com/Corbychris/status/1111572881446715392

who says that the word 'transgender' is irrelevant, and should be deleted from the story.

Vote Lib Dem folks!

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ScienceIsTruth Fri 29-Mar-19 15:15:11

The use of 'transgender female' really pisses me off. There's nothing female about Mr Chloe Walker.

PalatineUvula Fri 29-Mar-19 15:16:26

I should add, he was Peterborough prison which houses both men and women. No idea which estate he was in?

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Knicknackpaddyflak Fri 29-Mar-19 15:16:45

A cynical part of me wonders if the judge is trying to prevent any loopholes about 'unfair hearing' and 'undue pressure' and other such things that could overturn the verdict, or make it about anything other than the offence. Then again, its getting hard these days to be cynical enough to keep up with what's happening.

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happydappy2 Fri 29-Mar-19 15:26:21

Funnily enough it is of the upmost importance to women, who are expected to welcome this individual into our safe spaces.....

nauticant Fri 29-Mar-19 15:42:16

Having done jury service, it's clear to me that it's those kinds of shenanigans that would see a case not being beyond reasonable doubt for a number of jurors.

FindTheTruth Tue 03-Nov-20 13:08:04

UPDATE:

Transgender sex offender, 30, who preyed on boys and girls as both a man and a woman is jailed for 10 months after breaking sexual harm prevention order
Chloe Walker, 30, formerly Brandon, has racked up a string of sexual offences
Released from prison last year but refused to contact a supervising police officer
Traced to Derbyshire and arrested for breaking sexual harm prevention order
In court she appeared both as Chloe and Brandon to answer different offences
Court heard she has been waiting for gender reassignment for three years
Jailed for ten months after appearing at Northampton Crown Court

The court heard that since 2006, Walker had racked up 22 previous convictions including sexually assaulting a boy under 13, sexual activity with a girl under 16, robbery and assault.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8905865/Transgender-sex-offender-30-jailed-10-months-breaking-sexual-harm-prevention-order.html

FindTheTruth Tue 03-Nov-20 13:13:22

PalatineUvula

I should add, he was Peterborough prison which houses both men and women. No idea which estate he was in?

I wondered that too.

worryingly, this sex offender is employed full-time in prison as a wing cleaner at HMP Peterborough and has become a diversity representative.

so is that with female residents? if so, those poor women

The prison website says HMP YOI Peterborough is the only purpose-built prison in the country to accommodate both male and female residents, who are kept separate at all times. The prison also has a mother and baby unit on site.

Imnobody4 Tue 03-Nov-20 14:16:03

Judge Rebecca Crane said: 'There have been problems with you making malicious allegations against probation staff and poor compliance.

'They say you're highly likely to re-offend.

'It was traumatic for you because you have been waiting a very long time for an appointment at the gender reassignment clinic.'

I am so sick and tired at men using the poor me I'm suffering from depression, stress, trauma excuse to deliberately go out and traumatise numerous women.

FindTheTruth Tue 03-Nov-20 14:39:21

I am so sick and tired at men using the poor me I'm suffering from depression, stress, trauma excuse to deliberately go out and traumatise numerous women.

gaslighting both their victims and professionals

FindTheTruth Tue 03-Nov-20 14:42:56

And it really pisses me off that IPSO and politicians say you can't use the word transgender or biological sex in reporting male crimes. At least this article does use both.

Brandon Walker presented as a man called Jamie to lure victims online but becomes Chloe Walker when it suits, and when he wants preferential treatment

Angryresister Tue 03-Nov-20 14:45:07

If jj is on this thread please take note that this is exactly the kind of person we do not want in our facilities.

LizzieSiddal Tue 03-Nov-20 15:10:37

I wonder what 'gender reassignment' Chloe/Brandon is contemplating. I expect it is not getting his dick and balls cut off, which imo would be a good solution all round.

FindTheTruth Tue 03-Nov-20 15:12:27

grin LizzieSiddal

LizzieSiddal Tue 03-Nov-20 15:28:07

Unfortunately Find, I expect the surgery will be confined to a nice pair of 36DD breasts. hmm

LizzieSiddal Tue 03-Nov-20 15:29:41

Actually, could we please start a campaign for all these poor sex offenders, to get the FULL surgery, ASAP?

Thelnebriati Tue 03-Nov-20 20:02:59

HMP Peterborough has a mother and baby unit. Which wing is the convicted male sex offender cleaning?

ninetynineAu Wed 04-Nov-20 05:34:42

So, go into court, affirm or swear to your g_d that you will speak only the truth, but then have some Judge instruct you to lie; To refer to the male defendant as a woman, and so that you're giving a false statement as a witness, a dishonest representation of your own experience.

It's absolute bullshit and because no one with the power to, has stopped this crap, it sets a frightening precedent for further down the track. But the lack of care about women, the resentment and contempt towards us is such that people in power are prepared to sacrifice due process, so long as it benefits a few men and puts women back in our place.

And you can tell because when it' money, they care: 'Phoenix' laws exist to protect investors and consumers from recidivist predatory 'business' scamsters. But as soon as the crime is predominantly against women and children...?

I've always held that predators, whether fraudster like Peter Foster, or child predators, or recidivist domestic abusers, religious cult type predators, should all be banned from changing their names/identities or in any way disguise who they are, in attempt to gain easier access to victims.

testing987654321 Wed 04-Nov-20 06:11:51

So, go into court, affirm or swear to your g_d that you will speak only the truth, but then have some Judge instruct you to lie;

At some point someone will refuse to follow that instruction. I don't think I could lie in court.

JellySlice Wed 04-Nov-20 07:14:05

testing987654321

*So, go into court, affirm or swear to your g_d that you will speak only the truth, but then have some Judge instruct you to lie;*

At some point someone will refuse to follow that instruction. I don't think I could lie in court.


It has already happened. Maria MacLachlan was assaulted by a transwoman. The judge found the the TW guilty of assault but reduced Maria's compensation because she refused to feminine pronouns to describe the male who assaulted her. The judge penalised a woman for being honest and truthful in court.

testing987654321 Wed 04-Nov-20 07:21:38

I didn't know she actually refused, I thought she tried to comply when instructed to by the judge.

It's an outrageous position to be put in.

funnylittlefloozie Wed 04-Nov-20 07:25:57

Brandon Walker is a man. He calls himself "Chloe" purely to gain access to women. He is disgusting.

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