Safeguard evidence-based therapy for children struggling with gender dysphoria

(61 Posts)
AlwaysTawnyOwl Wed 14-Apr-21 18:33:28

Please sign and share this petition. The proposed ban on conversion therapy for same sex attraction threatens to sweep up the type of open ended counselling that gender confused children need in favour of ‘affirmation only approaches’.
petition.parliament.uk/petitions/582083

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Olderstyle1 Wed 14-Apr-21 18:41:44

Done. This is so important.

Erkrie Wed 14-Apr-21 18:42:27

👍

Leafstamp Wed 14-Apr-21 18:50:47

Done

OhHolyJesus Wed 14-Apr-21 18:56:39

Done

SusannahMartin Wed 14-Apr-21 19:01:15

Brilliant idea. Signed and shared on my social media

persistentwoman Wed 14-Apr-21 19:14:01

Done and shared.

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ErrolTheDragon Wed 14-Apr-21 19:18:54

Done. I don't see how any compassionate sane person could object to that request.
Is anyone in contact with parliamentarians about this (eg the Baroness)?

AlwaysTawnyOwl Wed 14-Apr-21 20:53:49

I could tweet at the Baroness and Lord Lucas etc. I posted this initialky on Feminism chat but it has now been moved to Petitions. Fair enough but can I tell people in chat to come and look for it here? Also I can only find this board by doing a search - I didn't know it existed - can anyone (MNHQ?) tell me where it sits?

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Olderstyle1 Wed 14-Apr-21 21:08:40

I just came to look for it (told some other MNers to take a gander and they couldn't find it). This is a nuisance - it's so important and I'm sure that lots of women will want to sign up. They just need to see it! Sorry Tawny - no idea how to make that possible!

ScrollingLeaves Wed 14-Apr-21 21:36:01

Please would someone explain more about this? I am rather uninformed and ignorant about the details of these issues.

How would a ban on conversion therapy for same sex attraction be linked to losing open ended counselling in favour of ‘affirmative’ counselling.for gender confused children?

I realise the gender confused shouldn’t be ‘affirmed’.

But aren’t same sex attraction and gender -confused separate issues?

Isn’t conversion therapy to try to stop someone feeling same sex attraction harmful and useless? If so is a ban on this so wrong?

Is it that these separate issues are going to be conflated so that a ban on converting (thereby affirming) same sex attraction will mean ‘affirming’ gender confusion?

GreyhoundG1rl Wed 14-Apr-21 21:40:22

Done 👍

Rollergirl1980 Wed 14-Apr-21 21:43:22

Done

Olderstyle1 Wed 14-Apr-21 21:54:17

"Is it that these separate issues are going to be conflated so that a ban on converting (thereby affirming) same sex attraction will mean ‘affirming’ gender confusion?"

Yes, exactly this Scrolling. There's a good overview here: merchedcymru.wales/where-we-stand-on-conversion-therapy/

Transgender Trend have excellent resources on the topic too, and the Society for Evidence-based Gender Medicine.

If this goes through the implications for GNC kids are hugely worrying.

Merename Wed 14-Apr-21 22:01:35

Done and bumping to keep in active.

ScrollingLeaves Wed 14-Apr-21 22:07:13

“Olderstyle1
There's a good overview here: merchedcymru.wales/where-we-stand-on-conversion-therapy/

Transgender Trend have excellent resources on the topic too, and the Society for Evidence-based Gender Medicine.

If this goes through the implications for GNC kids are hugely worrying.”

Thank you very much. I’ll look these up.

ScrollingLeaves Wed 14-Apr-21 22:12:34

Done

ThinkYouveHadTooMuch Wed 14-Apr-21 22:23:26

Done and shared with my secret clandestine network! grin

ErrolTheDragon Wed 14-Apr-21 22:36:20

AlwaysTawnyOwl

I could tweet at the Baroness and Lord Lucas etc. I posted this initialky on Feminism chat but it has now been moved to Petitions. Fair enough but can I tell people in chat to come and look for it here? Also I can only find this board by doing a search - I didn't know it existed - can anyone (MNHQ?) tell me where it sits?


The board is

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/petitions_noticeboard

There's a couple threads in FWR reminding people to check the petitions board which needs to get bumped more... I'll just go and do that...

YouNoob Wed 14-Apr-21 22:47:00

Done.

Discofish Thu 15-Apr-21 00:37:39

There are lobby groups who want legitimate therapies for gender dysphoria to be conflated with "conversion therapy" used to 'covert' gay people to being straight. Therefore the only model/approach available would be the "affirmation" model. If your child told you he/she beleived they were really the opposite sex, any kind of exploratory therapy to help them understand their feelings, and help them feel that they were not born in the wrong body, would be criminal. This petition has been set up by the concernd clinicians.

ScrollingLeaves Thu 15-Apr-21 08:05:22

Thank you, Discofish, for your explanation.

highame Thu 15-Apr-21 08:20:07

I've just posted this in one of the reminders before checking this out? not to worry and will bump the thread so more will find the link

DialSquare Thu 15-Apr-21 08:38:24

Done

Gibbonsgibbonsgibbons Thu 15-Apr-21 09:30:36

Done

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