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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sexism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 3

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fromorbit · 02/05/2026 11:45

Zack Polanski is making things bigger yet again so another thread needed.

Well things have developed rather a lot since the start. ZP started out as being another sexist guy in politics - no shortage those around, but he thought he could take it to a new level and he proved he could do it.

The Green threads have followed his rise from the start of with the Hypnoboobs scandal and much more. There is also:

Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it, has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and is now encouraging people to sue the Green party if they attempt to stop them saying racist stuff.

The other deputy Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounding like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. Yet she is the least crazy when violence is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

Hypnoboobs scandal got worse recently when it became clear from BBC footage ZP actively believed in the Hypnoboobs thesis rather than being tricked into it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

Alongside all this there is constant ongoing attacks on biological reality from the party in interviews and in policy.

Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of antisemetic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.

The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power. The huge drama over a crazy motion which they were trying to pass against Israel at conference alongside a motion to prevent women having sports will surface again their September conference.

It seems likely after next week The Greens are going to be running a bunch of councils which doesn't bode well after their antics in Bristol.

Yet there is hope, in Bristol women are fighting back_: www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5455053-bristol-council-is-about-to-be-sued_

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, ( https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ ) continues and the court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Greens internal drama warms up | Mumsnet

New long article looking at the drama inside the Greens over biology suddenly existing again despite their best efforts. *How the Green Party forgot...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

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1984Now · Yesterday 08:11

fromorbit · Yesterday 03:36

It is clear we are heading for some serious internal discord in the Greens as we discussed earlier. The argument over the anti Zionism motion combined with the attempt to stop disciplining racists is going to dominate the conference.

Mothin is up for re-election in 2027. I think he will see serious opposition and probably lose. It could get very vicious.

The argument over the existence of biology is going to be part of this especially as the court cases come in and the Greens probably lose them.

Alongside this the prospect of easy Green gains may recede with Burnham coming in. It looks like the Greens are going to get hammered in Manchester Mayoralty, despite an attempt to claim it was going to be a Reform vs Greens election.

One of the first polls for the Manchester Mayoral election, which was triggered by the resignation of Andy Burnham, shows just how much of a tight race it is between Reform and Labour.
The survey, carried out by FocalData on behalf of campaign group Hope Not Hate, put Labour on 33.2 per cent of first preference support, with Reform UK close behind on 30.1 per cent.
The Greens were third on 12.5 per cent, followed by the Conservatives on 11.1 per cent and the Liberal Democrats on 7.6 per cent.
https://leftfootforward.org/2026/06/manchester-mayoral-election-poll-shows-just-how-close-it-is-between-reform-and-labour/

Green Party returns inadmissible donation from Polanski

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6219yym2g1o

Maybe Polanski should have paid his council tax first before making this donation?

1984Now · Yesterday 08:14

fromorbit · Yesterday 03:36

It is clear we are heading for some serious internal discord in the Greens as we discussed earlier. The argument over the anti Zionism motion combined with the attempt to stop disciplining racists is going to dominate the conference.

Mothin is up for re-election in 2027. I think he will see serious opposition and probably lose. It could get very vicious.

The argument over the existence of biology is going to be part of this especially as the court cases come in and the Greens probably lose them.

Alongside this the prospect of easy Green gains may recede with Burnham coming in. It looks like the Greens are going to get hammered in Manchester Mayoralty, despite an attempt to claim it was going to be a Reform vs Greens election.

One of the first polls for the Manchester Mayoral election, which was triggered by the resignation of Andy Burnham, shows just how much of a tight race it is between Reform and Labour.
The survey, carried out by FocalData on behalf of campaign group Hope Not Hate, put Labour on 33.2 per cent of first preference support, with Reform UK close behind on 30.1 per cent.
The Greens were third on 12.5 per cent, followed by the Conservatives on 11.1 per cent and the Liberal Democrats on 7.6 per cent.
https://leftfootforward.org/2026/06/manchester-mayoral-election-poll-shows-just-how-close-it-is-between-reform-and-labour/

Green Party returns inadmissible donation from Polanski

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c6219yym2g1o

But it won't be close in the end. When it appears that Labour and Reform stay neck and neck, Green and LD voters will en masse switch to Labour, probably some Tory voters too.
At the GE as well, Reform will probably average 35% all over the UK, but score plenty of second places.

fromorbit · Yesterday 08:46

1984Now · Yesterday 08:14

But it won't be close in the end. When it appears that Labour and Reform stay neck and neck, Green and LD voters will en masse switch to Labour, probably some Tory voters too.
At the GE as well, Reform will probably average 35% all over the UK, but score plenty of second places.

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The Manchester election is being done with a form of Alternative Vote. So you could just vote Greens and have Labour as backup so it is devastating if the First votes are big for Labour. When days ZP was saying this:

Manchester mayor race direct fight between Greens and Reform, claims Zack Polanski

https:/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/manchester-mayor-race-greens-reform-zack-polanski-b1286867.html

I think Labour will win round 1 very well then get even more votes in round 2.

The result in 2028/9 is going to depend on whether Burnham goes for a different voting system. I agree if FPTP is maintained I think a Reform win is very likely though I wouldn't like to guess at the breakdown right now.

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1984Now · Yesterday 08:59

fromorbit · Yesterday 08:46

The Manchester election is being done with a form of Alternative Vote. So you could just vote Greens and have Labour as backup so it is devastating if the First votes are big for Labour. When days ZP was saying this:

Manchester mayor race direct fight between Greens and Reform, claims Zack Polanski

https:/www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/manchester-mayor-race-greens-reform-zack-polanski-b1286867.html

I think Labour will win round 1 very well then get even more votes in round 2.

The result in 2028/9 is going to depend on whether Burnham goes for a different voting system. I agree if FPTP is maintained I think a Reform win is very likely though I wouldn't like to guess at the breakdown right now.

You mean the GE result in 28/29, or Manchester locally?
Once left voters see there's momentum in tactically voting for the left party most likely to oust Reform, I can see those second places rack up for Farage.

SwirlyGates · Yesterday 10:05

@womendeserveequalhumanrights I can only conclude the Green Party is filled with dimwits and misogynists. That's the only possible explanation.

Well, we knew that already.

fromorbit · Today 07:54

Dennis Noel Kavanagh

Funny how quiet the Green Party are being on the Conversion Practices Bill. I suspect some of the more religious members may have some issues with it.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:55

1984Now · Yesterday 08:11

Maybe Polanski should have paid his council tax first before making this donation?

Well, quite!

1984Now · Today 10:59

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:55

Well, quite!

These people are on a different planet. Which normal resident anywhere in UK who owns where they live, thinks they somehow don't need to pay council tax?
And this is the guy who thinks he should have a major say in how the country is run, set our taxes.
We are absolutely cursed with the worst political class, entitled and incompetent.

fromorbit · Today 17:26

Very interesting the fact this has been placed in the Guardian makes me think this is part of a move by the leadership against the Mothin faction in advance of the potential zionist drama at conference.

Greens examining how party decides policy as membership triples under Zack Polanski
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/28/greens-examining-how-party-decides-policy-as-membership-triples-under-zack-polanski

Things are going to get very interesting in the Greens..

Greens examining how party decides policy as membership triples under Zack Polanski

Exclusive: Concerns in-person vote system is giving bigger say to organised fringe activists who can attend conference

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/28/greens-examining-how-party-decides-policy-as-membership-triples-under-zack-polanski

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