“A school faces a threat of legal action over policies that protect all children – so we’re fighting back.”

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

https://goodlaw.social/a8mo

the GLP are sort of the curse of bad luck so let’s see what happens…

I don't even think GLP can donate the money they've raised to the school.... not for a particular politically motivated legal purpose (which is to be clear, to undermine existing safeguarding law).

They don't seem to have thought this through at all. Do GLP think they can just rock up and get involved in any lawsuit? The entitlement is somewhat off the scale if so.

That would be a feature, not a bug.

Doc T is so clear - what a pity is isn't applicable everywhere in the UK, not just England.

2.4 The door to a toilet cubicle, a toilet room or a universal toilet should meet the following.
a. Not obstruct emergency escape routes when opened.
b. Be fitted with light action privacy bolts operable with a closed fist and operable by people with a variety of dexterity or strength combinations.
c. Be capable of being opened from the outside if a person has collapsed against it while inside the toilet room or cubicle.
d. If the door is inward opening, have an emergency release mechanism so that the door is capable of being opened outward, from the outside, in case of emergency, such as when a person has collapsed while inside the toilet room or cubicle. [my emphasis]
e. Be as light in weight as possible and, if required to self-close, be opened using a force at the leading edge of not more than 30N from 0 degrees (the door in the closed position) to 30 degrees open, and not more than 22.5N from 30 degrees to 60 degrees of the opening cycle.
f. Open with one hand using a closed fist (e.g. a lever handle)

Approved Document T - Toilet accomodation

I think it shows the appalling grift that they are on. The language of their own post makes it seem like they are representing the school and raising money on the back of that. Whereas the reality is that the closest they can get to the case is to apply to intervene. Not going to need very much to write a document when they can cut and paste from other places where they have said it all before. So where does all the excess money go, hmm?

Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have equivalent. Similar wording has been around for years.
The problem is, we have such a mish-mash of historic designs. This could be a real turning point in toilet and changing room health and safety if the government get it right.

JM’s very high hourly rate I’d imagine.

"Transgender is an adult designation, an adult decision, an adult category that shouldn't be imposed on children and young people".

This is at the heart of the case.
We've allowed these adults & groups - so many of them porn / fetish focused - to wedge their way into schools pronouncing on pastoral care, the curriculum, peer relationships, parental rights etc despite their total lack of any qualifications in education, child development, child psychology.

They've pushed their niche queer theory perspectives and self centred desires at all ages, aided and abetted by the trans captured civil service & politicians far more interested in sexual politics than child safeguarding & wellbeing.

The results have been catastrophic - especially for the mentally vulnerable who have been actively caught up in all this along with the damage that's been done by telling girls that they are not allowed boundaries, privacy, dignity or safety if a male requires their presence undressing in a changing room / shower / dormitory.

Using reciprocating saws to cut the top of the H frame supporting the door would be a good order of opperation as it would allow them to see into the stall and peel the framing down and outward.

It was explained to me that the minimum stall width was based on the minimum area a man needed to sit and wipe. Plus unlike the US the Ubend plumbing is into the exterior wall so the hole/piping plumbing was based on his expected arse position and the space needed by the plumber to lift the toilet into position and sholder space needed to fix the pipes and screw it to the floor. It was explained better but it is ergonomical 😁

And the men steering this have a fixed benefit in a particular outcome. Much of which is very questionable. As if it wasn't odd enough to see adults pushing so hard for this to happen to children.

For my own mental
health I deleted X

but

im dying to know the vibe in the comments .. https://x.com/goodlawproject/status/2018368057194823873?s=46

I think evaluating how to safeguard the trans child in the context of their peers is a better approach, as they are the vulnerable party here.

This is the fundamental problem with all of this isn't it? This poster says they are 40 years into their transition and yet they still haven't tried to think like a woman and are clinging on to their male sense of entitlement. Exactly the same as "Rose" Henderson's admission that he hadn't even thought about the women when he muscled his way into their changing room. JM's male sense of entitlement no doubt informs his belief that he can take part in any case he fancies.

I'm so glad that @SingleSexSpacesInSchools is here to remind us that the good men will stay out. If you need any gardening do let us know as I know I'm not the only one who will plant some carrots..........

This is all very "The Gay Agenda is coming for your kids."

There is no cabal of men casting trans women upon the world to occupy womens space and groom children.

There are as many trans boys and men these days as trans girls and women. What is their role in all of this? Why are gender critical people always ignoring them?

Why are gender critical people always ignoring them?

See my previous post - they don't have a sense of male entitlement and tend to try and keep themselves to themselves - @Keeptoiletssafe explained up thread that the TiF's prefer to use mixed sex facilities and if that isn't an option default back to the ladies (where they are of course welcome as they are entitled to be there as they are female). They don't try to encroach on spaces intended for the opposite biological sex or to gaslight the men into accepting them.

HTH

I tried responding to keeptoiletssafe and my post was removed. It would seem gender critical people prefer to ignore trans people's experiences and instead throw accusations at straw men.

The trans men I've met used men's facilities. They joined men's groups and participated in men's recreational sport. But beliefs are beliefs, I understand.

I'm afraid your experience is simply that. The experience of one person. With a highly vested interest to be less than candid.

You're not seeing widespread takeover of men's spaces, sports, prisons, intimate care, with men worried and taking women to court to preserve their dignity, privacy and safety, are you??

Nitter allows you to see the comments without having an account:

https://nitter.net/goodlawproject/status/2018368057194823873?s=46

ETA: the comments are largely supportive of your case and fwiw, so am I

lol yes I'm sure the local rugby clubs are just full of women TM desperate to play recreational rugby against men

if a woman chooses to insert herself into a man's space and the men are fine with that, that is on men. However a number of hay men have explained that they are really not happy with women TM on they're dating apps and in their clubs while straight men have expressed their discomfort at the idea of women using men's toilets & changing rooms.

however what men are not is scared, they're not scared of these tiny pretend men. It's a completely different situation to men in women's spaces and if you were an actual woman you would know that. But you're not do you don't

You should ask detransitioners about this.

There's a whole industry of medical quacks happy to make a fortune out of the misery of young people though.

I have never seen what gender critical people are seeing. My friends and family have not and with the exception of one friend five years ago who caught the covid conspiracy belief that eventually metastasised into all-purpose conspiracy (including gender critical) beliefs, no one I know has indicated support of anti-trans directed policy or beliefs.

Other than hearing about the odd thing from my husband, no I have no idea what goes on with men's sport.

We should. So these children and adults can be prevented from receiving care they do not need should not have. Ever.

The quacks should be de-registered and removed from society.

Thought I'd take a look at how the GLP post is going down on Bluesky. There's three replies. Not many likes or quotes either. Do you think the TRAs have realised that GLP isn't really helping them?

I’m entertained, though not surprised - little surprises me these days - by the idea of sex realist understanding, and pretty much all of human biology, being included under the conspiracy theory umbrella.

Hey, guess what! This thread isn't all about you!

Start your own

Theres a lot of things your friends and family won’t have seen personally, but they will still know they are wrong. I don’t need to see children being used in county lines to know it’s wrong.

I read most of the trans people playing rugby were trans men. I cannot remember where.

I remember how gay men felt about any trans people in clubs in the 80s. Nothing has changed then.

Your belief imposes motivations on people that do not exist.