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“A school faces a threat of legal action over policies that protect all children – so we’re fighting back.”

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 03/02/2026 11:48

https://goodlaw.social/a8mo

the GLP are sort of the curse of bad luck so let’s see what happens…

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AnSolas · 08/02/2026 14:30

whatwouldafeministdo · 08/02/2026 14:14

IIRC they claim they've received legal advice. It may be from the captured LA so 'legal' advice. And given the GLP, there are plenty of lawyers who claim they can't understand the crystal clear SC judgement.

So I agree with you but I don't think it's beyond the realms of possibility that they've received advice to carry on forcing girls to share their spaces with male bodies.

Also IIRC (and I don't have time to go back to check) they've refused to share their 'legal advice' with the OP. Or the generic safeguarding risk assessments. So I think there's a reasonable chance they don't exist.

I mean really anything is possible with people who are willing to lie to the extent they claim that as soon as a male bodied boy utters the magic words 'I'm a girl' the safeguarding based around sexed bodies fails to apply.

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I would suggest that it is more likely worded that the male (female) student would try sue under their PC of Gr of being "excluded" from the girls single sex spaces.

And they are going to try rely on not having alternative provision and will be carefully worded to avoid the school being able to sue them for poor professional work product.

The school do not have to share the legal advice as the presumption is that any legal advise is privileged as it will be used against them if disclosed.

I would say the case by case safeguarding policy is a bluff. I cant (tbh almost cant) imagine someone being stupid enough to write a risk assessment which staff need to apply to an individual student on % risk of engaging in sex offending etc. What staff member would put their name to it when its asking for a guestimation of non-contact child sex abuse?

whatwouldafeministdo · 08/02/2026 14:37

I think that the SLT think (because frankly they're stupid) that if they put a male bodied individual in the box marked 'female' despite all physical reality, they can claim it's still a single sex space (i.e. legally compliant). So as long as they call Pete 'a girl' then they get away with Pete watching the girls change. And they're very determined not to think or ask how the girls feel about that.

Well, that didn't work in Darlington. I suspect it's even less likely to work when it comes to schools as children have even less ability to avoid being forced to strip off in front of a person of opposite sex than employed nurses.

But following that reasoning through - someone who says they have a clear DBS has a clear DBS even though in reality they don't. An adult male who wants to join the school in year 7, claiming to be 12, can join the school because he's 12 even though in reality he's 42.

If it works for one thing it has to work for all, and what a massive safeguarding failure that would be.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 14:53

whatwouldafeministdo · 08/02/2026 12:55

If I was in their position I'd be arguing to comply with the law immediately, insisting my argument was recorded in the minutes, and if SLT refused, I'd be resigning in protest with a very clear letter as to why.

I wonder if any governors have taken this step. If any have stepped down recently, that may be the case.

Those that stay are colluding.

Edited to add: I might have an intermediate step where I asked to look at the legal advice they've allegedly received and compare to other advice available (and there is now plenty) and existing court cases. I may suggest using another firm to see if the advice is the same and scrutinise if current firm has any biases. That is the most I would do before resigning. I.e. I'd give them a chance to do the right thing and get independent legal advice however it's pretty clear that the situation is not legal so then I'd resign.

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there is not a single mention in the published minutes of any of this. not a single word.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 14:54

AnSolas · 08/02/2026 13:50

No legal advice will say ignore the law which 2 block single sex provision for students only.

The legislation makes specific provision for single units for students who need adapted toilets so the school can not even argue that moving an individual child into an adapted space is discrimination.

au contraire.

I'm afraid.

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MinervaBoudicca · 08/02/2026 16:16

Hicc · 06/02/2026 14:11

One of the Governors is a solicitor and has a specific interest in supporting trans identified children, so...

So the school governors have initiated contact with the misogynist GLP?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 08/02/2026 17:12

That’s a very plausible scenario I think.

Hicc · 08/02/2026 17:12

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 14:53

there is not a single mention in the published minutes of any of this. not a single word.

No, indeed there is not!

Governors are allowed to not publish some minutes if they could be legally sensitive. They are FOI-able though - not sure if you @SingleSexSpacesInSchools have made such a request?

I think they could be fascinating and surely pertinent to any legal challenge.

Dragonasaurus · 08/02/2026 17:14

I understand that school heads are ultimately personally responsible for health and safety. I wonder if there is any legal route whereby you can threaten the head directly and personally with legal action if he/she continues to fail in the duty of providing a safe changing environment for the girls?
Things always seem to look a little different when someone is held personally responsible rather than it being the school/the LA etc

Hicc · 08/02/2026 17:24

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Keeptoiletssafe · 08/02/2026 18:24

The DfE told me who was ultimately responsible regarding toilet design and safety of their pupils. It will be the same for changing rooms. This is their response summarised:

When replying to the FOI request on toilet door gap safety and medical conditions, the DfE said, ‘Schools are responsible for the health, safety and welfare of pupils (School Premises Regulations/Independent School Standards) and this would include supporting pupils with additional needs. Where a pupil has a special requirement, suitable toilets must be provided to meet that need under the School Premises Regulations/Independent School Standards: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachmentdata/file/410294/Adviceonstandardsforschoolpremises.pdf (page 8).’
‘In terms of health and safety in schools, all schools must adhere to the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974. The employer in a school must take reasonable steps to ensure that staff and pupils are not exposed to risks to their health and safety.
The employer is required to ensure that a risk assessment is conducted and measures put in place to minimise any known risk. Employers, school staff and others also have a duty under common law to take care of pupils in the same way that a prudent parent would.
The employer in a school will vary depending on the type of school. For community, voluntary controlled, community special, and maintained nursery schools this is the local authority. For foundation schools, foundation special schools and voluntary aided schools the employer is the governing board. For academies and free schools, the employer is the governing board or academy trust and the proprietor is the employer in independent schools.
Schools must have a health and safety policy in place which the headteacher is responsible for implementing.
Furthermore, the department’s statutory guidance ‘Supporting Pupils with Medical Conditions at School’ (https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/supporting-pupils-at-school-with-medical-conditions3) makes it clear to schools what is expected of them in taking reasonable steps to fulfil their legal obligations in relation to toilet facilities.
Any concerns about a school’s procedures should be raised directly with the school in question in the first instance as schools are autonomous institutions run by a governing body, with day-to-day operational decisions such as access to toilets during lessons, managed by the headteacher.’

In addition, when replying to the FOI request on toilet door gap safety and assaults on girls the DfE said, ‘Schools and colleges have a critical role to play in protecting children and keeping them safe. Keeping children safe in education’ (KCSIE) is statutory guidance that all schools and colleges must have regard to when carrying out their duties to safeguard and promote welfare of children.
The KCSIE guidance is very clear that best interests of children must always come first where there are any concerns action should be taken immediately.
Amongst other things, KCSIE sets out that safeguarding is everyone’s responsibility and that;

  • All staff have a responsibility to provide a safe environment in which children can learn.
  • All staff should receive safeguarding training.
  • All staff should know what to do if they have a concern about a child.
  • All schools and colleges should have an effective child protection policy that also reflects the approach to child-on-child abuse, including: procedures to minimise the risk of it occurring; how allegations will be recorded, investigated and dealt with; clear process on victim and perpetrator support, clear statement that child on child abuse should never be tolerated or passed off as just part of growing up; and the different forms on child on child abuse can take. The guidance has been further strengthened for 2022 – ensuring schools have even clearer guidance on how to deal with reports of sexual abuse. This revised guidance now includes the ‘sexual violence and sexual harassment advice ‘which puts it on a statutory footing to give the issue the prominence it deserves.’
AnSolas · 08/02/2026 18:42

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 14:54

au contraire.

I'm afraid.

Sorry I worded that loosely I ment if it ends up in Court

I would like to read the actual detail they claim can be used to get around the school legislation. The legal firm advisor would be stupid not to have at least one cover their professional pensions ases section. If one or all of the board are pushing the agenda the advice and interpertation may be skewed.

The advice would have to be based on some kind of case law and imo if the school had supporting cases to justify what they are doing they would have sent you a PFO letter with details.

I will say the staff action is more likely a calculated risk of you not having the finances to take on the school. If you do the staff have to prove the policy old and new has been signed off by the board and was lawful since inception.

The head and the senior staff have the most to lose on a personal level as they are the educators who decided to put a possible erection in a room full of underage girls

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 20:12

Hicc · 08/02/2026 17:12

No, indeed there is not!

Governors are allowed to not publish some minutes if they could be legally sensitive. They are FOI-able though - not sure if you @SingleSexSpacesInSchools have made such a request?

I think they could be fascinating and surely pertinent to any legal challenge.

I love a good FOI I will.

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 20:15

@Keeptoiletssafe - you seem to know more about this than anyone I have spoken to, if I may suggest your evidenced opinion in this could be very valuable to the legal team?

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 20:17

AnSolas · 08/02/2026 18:42

Sorry I worded that loosely I ment if it ends up in Court

I would like to read the actual detail they claim can be used to get around the school legislation. The legal firm advisor would be stupid not to have at least one cover their professional pensions ases section. If one or all of the board are pushing the agenda the advice and interpertation may be skewed.

The advice would have to be based on some kind of case law and imo if the school had supporting cases to justify what they are doing they would have sent you a PFO letter with details.

I will say the staff action is more likely a calculated risk of you not having the finances to take on the school. If you do the staff have to prove the policy old and new has been signed off by the board and was lawful since inception.

The head and the senior staff have the most to lose on a personal level as they are the educators who decided to put a possible erection in a room full of underage girls

Ah yes - I agree

let’s just say I am exceptionally motivated to land this and for those responsible to suffer the consequences.

also a fantastic line about erections if I may make light of this terrible situation 🙌

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AnSolas · 08/02/2026 20:50

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 08/02/2026 20:17

Ah yes - I agree

let’s just say I am exceptionally motivated to land this and for those responsible to suffer the consequences.

also a fantastic line about erections if I may make light of this terrible situation 🙌

It is funny in a WTF kind of way.🙈

And if that is what safeguarding in schools end up having to manage
😬🚩

Keeptoiletssafe · 08/02/2026 22:26

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools pm me. Happy to discuss.

qwerty123466 · 08/02/2026 23:46

good luck OP. will the school be named on this thread? curious to know why this has to be kept private.

borntobequiet · 09/02/2026 06:20

qwerty123466 · 08/02/2026 23:46

good luck OP. will the school be named on this thread? curious to know why this has to be kept private.

Just exercise a little thoughtful common sense and come to your own conclusions.

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 09/02/2026 19:15

qwerty123466 · 08/02/2026 23:46

good luck OP. will the school be named on this thread? curious to know why this has to be kept private.

If I could, I would. It would make recruiting concerned parents a lot easier.

however the school has also requested anonymity, and so for now we do the dance of them pretending I’m not knowing who I am, attending parents evenings and everything, and that nobody knows who they are.

I have lots of email trails to find and send on, lots of admin and hassle :)

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SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/02/2026 12:14

The window of opportunity is very much closing.

If anybody can put me in touch with any Brighton parents of a secondary school pupil who would be horrified about this situation and would be willing to anonymously say so, please, please do, we need more people :)

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whatwouldafeministdo · 10/02/2026 12:40

I know others have said this but I'm very very happy to do some gardening for this if needed OP. Very motivated, ready, willing and able!

Throckmorton · 10/02/2026 14:24

There is a facebook group of alumni of this school (I can PM you the name if this sounds useful). Might it be worth reaching out to them in case they also have kids / grandkids in the school? Being older they might have drunk less of the kool aid and be a safer group to reach out to

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/02/2026 14:33

Throckmorton · 10/02/2026 14:24

There is a facebook group of alumni of this school (I can PM you the name if this sounds useful). Might it be worth reaching out to them in case they also have kids / grandkids in the school? Being older they might have drunk less of the kool aid and be a safer group to reach out to

I would but it's really low traffic
if anyone wanted to put an appeal on the popular Brighton FB groups linking the article https://archive.ph/C4eXs and telling parents to get in touch with Conrathe Gardner.....
https://www.facebook.com/groups/970570516361844

Right now despite all the efforts and pushing and poking people - we are sitting at one parent. Me.

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MassiveWordSalad · 10/02/2026 16:03

@SingleSexSpacesInSchools Have you considered putting a message in the MN AIBU board to try and track down some parents? There’s a lot more traffic there. I’m sure you could word it carefully to avoid naming the school and attracting interest.

Best of luck to you as always. I’m hoping a collab with KTS works out well for you, love a Mumsnet crossover 😁

SingleSexSpacesInSchools · 10/02/2026 17:40

Well here's hoping the spotlight of AIBU will help :) https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5488835-to-ask-for-parents-in-brighton-who-would-object-to-males-being-in-their-daughter-changing-room-without-even-their-knowledge-to-come-forward-and-help-with-this-legal-case

To ask for parents in Brighton who would object to males being in their daughter changing room, without even their knowledge, to come forward and help with this legal case? | Mumsnet

There’s an ongoing legal case involving a large, central Brighton secondary school. The allegation is that the school has been allowing male pupils to...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5488835-to-ask-for-parents-in-brighton-who-would-object-to-males-being-in-their-daughter-changing-room-without-even-their-knowledge-to-come-forward-and-help-with-this-legal-case

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