“A school faces a threat of legal action over policies that protect all children – so we’re fighting back.”

[SingleSexSpacesInSchools]

https://goodlaw.social/a8mo

the GLP are sort of the curse of bad luck so let’s see what happens…

So they have 6.5K raised.

The cause doesn’t even start to address the problems raised for girls and boys when they are put in a situation of changing in front of the opposite sex.

It’s actually unbelievable.

Case by case basis?

Even if they believe biological boys, that identify as girls, should change their clothing, share bedrooms and toilets with biological girls, how is it even possible to have a case by case basis.

What’s their criteria?

One biological boy who identifies as a girl is allowed but another isn’t? On what basis. Where’s their written policy on that?

I’m a mostly silent lurker @SingleSexSpacesInSchools but I have read a number of your threads.

I just wanted to salute your perseverance in holding the school to account despite their many and varied attempts to prevent/derail you. Good on you, keep going. If there is any gardening required I’m ready with my spade.

I’ve really come to believe that Jolyon and the GLP see women and girls as something less than human.

It's little wonder we live in a time where young girls are so convinced that identifying into being boys is a solution.

So the Good Law Project are going after the most vulnerable?

The Good Law Project are going to have to defend making all schools change all their toilet cubicles and any changing room cubicles to be like the right of this picture. Any child who is medically vulnerable, including children with epilepsy, diabetes, pots and other heart and neurological conditions in an average secondary school, should have a reasonable adjustment of a door gap. That means a single sex environment in front of the door. Door gaps also prevent misuse - sex and drugs in cubicles. And it makes them easier to ventilate and clean. It’s like it said in Building Standards at the time of 1992 legislation, advantageous for: ventilation, cleaning, supervision, prevention of misuse. Schools don’t need to comply with 1992 legislation - they do need to comply with safeguarding. They also have a duty of care to those with medical conditions. Their toilet doors need to open from the outside easily in case a child collapses.

Children go in to cubicles to vape and spiked vapes have caused seizures. The University of Bath last year warned schools about cardiac arrests happening - so far teachers have done cpr, saving pupils because they have been in corridors or classrooms so could be seen. As one headteacher said, ‘Dealing with the aftermath is challenging, especially when you have to explain to the child’s family that something potentially life-threatening happened while they were in our care. It’s equally distressing for their friends who witnessed the collapse and for the staff involved—it’s their worst fear realised.”
“What do we do if it happens again and we’re unaware? One incident occurred on the playground, where many people were present to help. But what if it happens in a bathroom cubicle, and they are alone? It would only be when they didn’t show up for class, were marked absent, and we started searching for them, potentially finding them too late. We’ve been fortunate so far, but I believe it’s only a matter of time before serious injuries or fatalities occur.

I know many other examples of deaths, rapes, sexual assaults and hidden cameras in school toilets. I know which designs they happen in most of the time.

A mixed sex, private toilet discriminates against any child who is mentally or physically vulnerable, and girls.

To Jolyon - mixed sex, private toilets don’t work. They are worse for any child at their most vulnerable. They don’t work in schools or wider society - why do you think radar keys were introduced? If you try and get the DfE to change so they stipulate that mixed sex toilets have door gaps - good luck. That really isn’t going to happen.

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The small stuff?
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The risk assessment that one is or one is not likely to be a sex offender as providing a child for another to sexualy abuse is a chargable criminal offence.

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In a week dominated by the Pedo Island files: We learn the only trans person mentioned in all the archive thus far is a trans girl who was trafficked and raped by the Island owner and friends; who was the first woman to request help from anyone and was mocked and maligned in courts and by the press in return.

This is not about trans people (tho the Esptein revelations include some chilling information about sex change medics and their involvement with the paedophile).
This is about safeguarding children - girls and boys - from the predatory belief that girls must be compelled to undress in front of boys and men if the males require this (and vice versa).
This is about the removal of the rights of children to have boundaries from the opposite sex.
This is about stopping dangerous adults gaslighting, coercively controlling and grooming girls into believing that they have no rights to privacy from males in showers, changing rooms, dormitories etc if men and boys insist on being present.
This is about safeguarding children from an age inappropriate, dangerous ideology and the activist adults that seek to remove the rights of children to be kept safe.

I can't wait for these adults to be standing in a court of law explaining why they're promoting the rights of men and boys to be in female changing rooms watching young girls undress.

A TiM was NOT the first person to raise the alarm about Epstein. Is there nothing that TRAs will not try to appropriate?!

Case by case is code for letting all TiMs who want access into female spaces. Where case by case is the policy the decision makers are shit scared to say “no” for fear of being accused of discrimination

I kinda guessed, lol.

Yes. It's impossible. Anyone informed knows it's impossible. It's a bit of window dressing to get self ID past the public.

They'll swallow 'just the very nice pre checked ones' long enough to get it all through.

I have reached the point of utterly despising the politicians pushing this through, this is not being ill informed or thick, this is intentional harm with confidence trickery.

very kind and appreciated. For now things are in hand. Things were not supposed to go further than a letter to the head and somehow the good law project has raised £7k to make my daughter look at half naked boys. Feels like I am in the looking glass.

I note on that fundraiser that "Ten per cent of the funds raised will be a contribution to the general running costs of Good Law Project". That seems like a rather exorbitant percentage ....

As a previous poster said, in a battle between SingleSexSpacesInSchools and the GLP, I know where I'd place my bet!

I’d love to see it enough to pay good money (with equal value placed on getting the school to actually safeguard children before the court case!)

As others have said, just shout if you need gardening

I'm not sure what part the GLP can play. The school & local authority have their own lawyers. If the school gets taken to court are GLP going to rock up & offer legal advice?

This, from the CoT email is very much on point:

@We understand your intention in celebrating Pride with the children was probably well meant and you did not intend to make it harder for CSA victims, including of men who say they are women to speak out, but this is what you have done.

Will they finally dare to understand? Or will they dismiss them as borderline outliers, ignorant bigots, or whatever?

Indeed.

I also cannot wait to hear exactly why any adult thinks it is not harmful at all to teach things that lower children's personal boundaries. Including suppressing the natural instincts that allow them to correctly identity a person's sex class.

Considering safeguarding principles in publicly accessible provisions are based on sex segregation which in turn is based on risk analysis at population level, telling any child that a male person is in anyway female lowers that child's boundaries. Especially in female children. Because if a female child doesn't report to an adult that a male person was somewhere he should not have been, that increases the risk of harm for that child and for all users of that provision.

There is no way around this. There can be no philosophising to dismiss this very real issue.

Good luck! You know you are supported.

This is your belief.

I started my transition over 40 years ago in school. I had to leave school because it was impossible to exist without constant abuse and violence. I persisted even though my changing was against considerable adult efforts to make me 'normal' and sometimes begrudgingly gay when 'normal' was a bridge too far. I have spent over 40 years in womens spaces. In toilets, changing rooms, shared sleeping accommodations. The gender dysphoria has been gone for decades and I have never regretted my decision. I assume everyone feels this at peace with their lives.

Based on my own experience, I used to believe that children and adolescents absolutely know if they are trans. And if we go to the effort of upending our lives at this age, and transition, it is almost a guarantee that we will be living the rest of our lives as that gender.

I agree that there can be no philosophising to dismiss this very real issue. The gender critical mischaracterisation of a minor MTF's transition as some goal-focused perverted action to 'gain access to girls' is cynical as hell and does no one any good. Could it happen? I guess. There are some awful people in the world. I believe I would be able to spot a bad faith attempt at transition. I believe detransitioners genuinely felt gender dysphoria at a time but eventually worked through the cause and decided transition was wrong for them. They are still a minorty of people who transition.

There used to be just as many trans boys as trans girls in the news for requesting accommodation in their schools. I assume that number has shifted to a majority of trans boys asking for accommodation, based on all the campaigns and websites against 'ROGD.'

I do believe trans girls are girls and trans boys are boys. I am not gender critical. I support case by case inclusion because I was not allowed an education. The fact that it was even allowed and culturally supported for any length of time warms my heart.

This is your belief.

There are a lot of people in the world who absolutely should be kept away from vulnerable people, trans and not.

Your belief that trans children are a tool of predating males is disgusting. Your belief that trans children have been groomed is as accurate and as disgusting as the homophobic belief that same-sex attracted adults were groomed as children.

My belief is trans boys are boys and trans girls are girls. They are just moving through their lives as who they are. I find it hard to believe your conspiracy that all trans children and adolescents are motivated to sneek a peek or to flash their genitals amongst their peers. All trans people I've ever met are so dysphoric they find their genitals and sex characteristics painful for even themselves to acknowledge. They're going to change in as private a way as possible. Kids can absolutely support and recognize the belonging of trans children. It's their parents and other adults trying to cast them as criminals that is the safeguarding issue.

@onepostwonder campaign for additional changing facilities then if privacy is more important.

All people should have an available space to change out of view of others if they wish. 100% agree.

I assume everyone feels this at peace with their lives.

What a very solipsistic assumption.