Minnesota mass shooting suspect - Tran activist.

[lechiffre55]

Yes exactly this. Typical self obsessed males.

Before I came to this thread I'd noticed that on the BBC's online coverage where they have posts over time it refers to 'him/he' in the earlier reports and 'they' in the later ones.

I'm more concerned about the children who were interviewed, shown on the BBC both on the 10pm news and online, especially the boy who speaks about hiding under a pew: he says his friend then lies on top of him to protect him and is shot.

The BBC TV footage also showed children being walked home by their families but their online footage doesn't show their faces.

Is the rule that they can be shown if their parents have agreed?

Just waiting for more photos of him in tiny skirts and this to be twisted as a story that he wasn't validated enough in his lie. After all he has a golden ticket to wave about.
It's the children and families who really should be the priority here.

@kiki777
usually the participants at FWS board are smart enough to not throw every prejudice together and stir.
I agree with you partially in that the connection between men and school shooters is often a sense of entitlement and feeling misunderstood (and probably not revered enough), but so is the connection between men and a subgroup of TW (entitlement: mansplaining femaleness to them, being "a better woman" than a woman...).

The fact that the trans-state is discussed is probably mostly as a reaction to the "we just want to live our lives" statements that are posted all the time, as this is the complete opposite: aggression and drama.

The other reason why it's discussed was mentioned by me and others, too: there could be psychological problems lurking behind body dysmorphia and feelings of the "wrong body", which could be part of the real reason. It is important that this is at least investigated and not swept under the carpet. There were several trans mass shooters in recent years and it is relevant for prevention to find out where the connections are.

The easiest way to disconnect the shooters from their trans status is to search and find an underlying (psychological / psychriatic reason that so far has been overlooked, not to close your eyes. I rather think so far we often only see the surface as it's so discouraged to look further.

FWR board, not FWS...

So out of all the mass shootings in the US in, say, the last 5 years, what percentage of the perpetrators were trans and what percentage white male? (Commonly Republican voters.)

You’ve taken propaganda bait.

I agree with this. This tragedy was committed by a psychologically-damaged white male. Conservative commentators are jumping on the ‘trans’ element for their own ends, and that is shameful.

I’m not on Reddit- is anyone challenging them on this?

Minnesota think trans is great, they're a safe state for them.
Tampon Tim got that name because he wanted to put them in men's toilets, then he could get men in women's toilets and it's all equal and fair and rainbows.

It's reddit. No challenging allowed on any sub really. Anyone who goes against the group think is banned and deleted pretty fast

What a surprise....not.

Sounds shit.

I’ll continue to give it a wide berth

He might have misdemeanors on his record.

”Targeting the trans community”? Ridiculous. How about pointing out that rather than the trans community being “the most oppressed” group in society, they are in fact a group dominated by angry, personality-disordered aggressive men who have been deliberate in announcing their intentions to get what they want through increasingly violent means?

Trans activists have made it abundantly clear they feel like they’re losing the cause, and are actively encouraging each other to escalate their actions, and when one of them does that in the most heinous way possible, we’re supposed to “not target the trans community” like the Mayor of Minneapolis wants us to do? The trans community can’t even acknowledge the problem of violence within its own ranks. Violent signs, gestures, threats, acts of male violence, all ignored, dismissed or minimised.

Here’s a thought, Mayor: why don’t you send a message to the trans community to sort itself out and stop pushing the idea of violence to get what you want?

So you agree he was a man exhibiting male pattern violence then? Turns out Trans Women Aren't Women when they commit a hate crime that makes trans people look bad. You can bet the media would be respecting his pronouns if he wanted his place on a women's volleyball team or if he was just a regular old rapist wanting to be put in a women's prison.

Im the in US , I havent seen any news reports referring to this person as 'she' , which was surprising, but they also didn't mention that he identified as a woman. That part is being glossed over as if its irrelevant

Those poor children and their parents.

The world has gone mad. The killer was unable to respect the lives and safety of children and yet we are expected to respect his pronouns?

Sorry but as the perpetrator of this utterly vile attack, he has lost any rights around how he is remembered.

It does matter as another heinous crime is being attributed to the wrong sex and as a women I am offended by that ( it also wildly fucks up stats and data going forward).

Oh it’s been committed by a ‘white’ male. Interesting. We are using that determiner are we. Wow.

I’m sorry - what’s your point? This happened in the US. Like it or not, this is used in demographic statistics.

An interesting and chilling detail of school and mass shootings in the US is that of the tiny number committed by (actual) women, a significant proportion of those identified as “trans”. There is a problem here. Violent ideation is common in this community, you only have to look at the types of luridly violent threats many TRAs make online to women. If “incel” type young men are a concern (which obviously they are) so is this group. Many male trans people would essentially fall into that group anyway as motivated by misogyny.

Well said.

It’s the hypocrisy of it that’s galling. When a point is being made that ‘trans’ should not be the identifier to then pick race instead - as long as it’s white, is laughable.

I understand that but there must be a hell of a lot of misdemeanours for them to mention it. Normally they don't mention criminal history at all until a lot later when they dive into backgrounds and talk to friends, relatives etc. Very strange to bring it up right now.

Why are some posters talking about 'trans' school shooters and 'white male' school shooters as if they are different species?
Most school shooters have been 'white males' as far as I recall from pictures in the news and some of those white males have been trans-identified. They're the same people. Male, a subsection of which is trans-identified.