Minnesota mass shooting suspect - Tran activist.

[lechiffre55]

I don't know if trans-identified makes are more likely to do this sort of thing that men are generally. But I'm pretty sure they do it more than women do. And that means their trans status is very relevant, because it counters the argument that trans "women" are just like "other" women.

So, are you suggesting it would have been bigger news than it already is.....being covered worldwide and his hateful and clearly deranged mental state made clear for all to see?

If white males are the largest proportion of the population then you might expect their to be their crimes to be proportionate to that.

I'm not sure why you are making such a big thing about race here?

Also suggestive that mental disturbance, unhealthy obsessions and trans identities may well have a high cross-over rate.

When you indulge extremism and mental illness and protect it as a virtuous identity...this is the result.

As someone mentioned upthread, there is a difference in the US between "school shootings" which are not that uncommon and "mass shootings" (in schools and other contexts) which are rare:

www.statista.com/statistics/811487/number-of-mass-shootings-in-the-us/

Look at the past decade (when the annual numbers have increased markedly) you'll see around 8 a year.

There's a lot of mischief going on including conflating these very different statistics and playing various games. In looking around I found this from the lauded Reuters Fact Check from well before the current furore:

Most mass shootings or violent gun attacks in the U.S. carried are out by cisgender men.

It's one of those conclusions that looks authoritative but is calculated to get the reader to form the "correct" views but actually tells the reader almost nothing.

Not at all.

It’s highly relevant to the crime being discussed, as is the perpetrator’s politics, religion, psychological state, etc. I’m not sure why you don’t think it’s relevant.

It must be a deliberate decision. Somebody just couldn’t bear not to acknowledge his ‘identity’. I note they put an explainer in (that he’d changed his name, etc) and I presumed they’d done that to try to ward off criticism (“See? We said he was trans”) but they just had to get that “she” in there 🙄

I’ve found that people who are obsessed by using the ‘correct’ pronoun can’t think (or feel) past that. It’s like an illogical compulsion, as are a lot of the beliefs around gender ideology. They just can’t pull themselves back.

You keep on pressing this issue, but you really, really shouldn’t. In fact, the racial background of school mass shooters (you’ll know why I specify mass) broadly reflect American male demographics. So there is no reason to meditate on his race, his sex and his gender identity are much more relevant.

Thought this might be of interest. Megyn Kelly's views.

https://x.com/megynkelly/status/1961267246497423775/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1961267246497423775&currentTweetUser=megynkelly

Disclaimer - this doesn't reflect my own views and I , quite frankly, think there is batshit on both sides.

Wow. That is... breathtaking in its myopic insensitivity. Especially in the US. Especially with the horrific shooting at Pulse still well within social memory.

I’m really not sure why you keep attempting to redirect away from this issue. It’s as relevant as the others. Anyone can look up the statistics and see why - it isn’t difficult.

Enlighten us. Why do you think race is just as relevant as his sex and gender identity? That’s a pretty crazy take tbh.

This egocentric thought is far too common in ‘trans’ young people. It’s not always malicious, but it’s there. This is why the first and last ports of call for young people with trans identities should be psychological assessment.

And if done, in all likelihood would find a diagnosis of autism. I strongly believe autistic teenagers in particular are vulnerable to being dangerously influenced. Often with the dual characteristics of being easily influenced/highly suggestible on the one hand, and yet once holding a view becoming rigid with it on the other. Underpinned by egocentrism.

I am sure the reaction of the vast, vast majority of Trans identifying men to the recent massacre is the same horror and revulsion as everyone else. For me the take away message isn’t that TiMs are more likely to be violent murders than other men, but that they are evidently not automatically less likely to be.

The argument that TWAW and should never be viewed as or compared to men just got even more shaky. Today, even NHS Fife management would find it hard to say TWs true womanly brains and innate womanly essence/personalities mean that women are always automatically 💯 safe in their presence.

Interesting new development.

The article talks about poor mental health and obvious red flags.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15050627/robin-westman-teacher-mental-health-red-flags.html

Then we get to these couple of paragraphs, which seems to have slipped down the back of the sofa of most of the reporting on the tragedy and are fairly crucial:

According to court papers filed in Dakota County, Minnesota, Westman changed her name from Robert to Robin in 2020 to reflect '[identifying] as a woman'.
But in a handwritten manifesto shared by the shooter in a YouTube video before opening fire, Westman appeared to question that decision.
'I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans. I am tired of being trans, I wish I never brain-washed myself,' the killer wrote in a scrawled cryptic message.
'I can’t cut my hair now as it would be an embarrassing defeat, and it might be a concerning change of character that could get me reported.
'It just always gets in my way. I will probably chop it on the day of the attack.'

We have lots of head scratching going on about why the perp decided to target the school and what the motive was, and yet we seem to have this snippet conveniently ignored in the rush to use pronouns. It seems a fairly significant point to me.

In the rush to use pronouns, there seems to be an obvious problem - the perp themselves was questioning being trans.

Just a minor issue. One which will allow the trans community to disavow this guy but without any self reflection either.

The worry here is you have someone who was clearly affirmed by the school (in one of the most pro-trans states) showing this degree of anger at the school when they have doubts about being trans.

Is this an anomaly or is it a warning sign that there's going to be an enormous problem with severely distressed and mentally ill detransitioners if/when the bubble of cult bursts?

'I only keep [the long hair] because it is pretty much my last shred of being trans.

As if this isn't proof that trans is based 100% on stereotypes. Men have had long hair for centuries. But apparently now long hair is a sign of being a woman. 🙄There is such a thing as a 'man bun'. I guess he didn't know that.

Article that refers to the shooter as 'she' over and over again. Which could have been avoided, so has to be a political statement, and is a lie.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/30/us-news/yearbook-photo-shows-killer-robin-westmans-first-year-living-as-a-woman/

seems to have attended 3 different high schools (a Catholic boys military themed institution and what appears to be the equivalent of a PRU? And then the high school where he transitioned) which is an obvious red flag for a struggling teen (seeing as a straightforward/typical path through US high school takes 4 years).

The school he targeted is a K-8 school (Kindergarten to Junior High) with an attached pre school (so equivalent to our Nursery, Reception to Year 6 plus the KS3 part of Secondary) so he really did target the most vulnerable option. Bet he wouldn’t dare try the same at the boys high school he also attended (which I would assume would have multiple retired military on staff?)

Wasn't he a neo Nazi? How is that not far right?

I just read about this org. Terrifying. It's easy to think all stuff like that is just satanic panic, but obvs not true

Where did you find that?

These people are living out these warped sexual fantasies in public, demanding that the world gratify them. Is it any wonder so many of them become become completely detached from reality. They are encouraged to live in a state of rage against their 'oppressors' who are 'literal nazis' out to murder them. I can see it all imploding eventually and the rage being how they were brainwashed and of course it will be everyone else's fault. It sounds like this man had already come to that conclusion. Sickens me how school shooters always choose the infant schools, monstrous to think of such cowardice, insanity and evilness combined. Revolting creature. Like the rest of his kind, they hate all that is innocent, good, worthy and pure. Because they know they are inadequate outcasts who have effed up their own lives and therefore they want to destroy others. I don't know any catholics but I admire the values that those families embrace and I can only imagine how much those values enrage the trans crowd.