Minnesota mass shooting suspect - Tran activist.

[lechiffre55]

Why are some posters talking about 'trans' school shooters and 'white male' school shooters as if they are different species?
Most school shooters have been 'white males' as far as I recall from pictures in the news and some of those white males have been trans-identified. They're the same people. Male, a subsection of which is trans-identified.

It isn’t hypocrisy. It’s fact. It’s nothing to do with picking on Caucasian people. Is that what you’re meaning?

Exactly. Almost all male.

Just like most violence is committed by males, & it’s the biological sex they have in common, not whether they identify as a gender.

Trans are overwhelmingly privileged white males.

That's relevant too.

Demographic characteristics are important in understanding crime. Most school shooters are young, white men. There are occasional exceptions - there was a recent one committed by a young woman who, if I recall correctly, identified as male.

There have, I think, been a few trans shooters now, which feels significant in the same way that it would be if there had been a few who were Scientologists or held to some other belief system. One case might signify nothing; when you have several, it suggests that something is going on that needs investigating.

Yep. I'd have had some respect for the mayor if he'd stood up and said 'this isn't because Robin was trans, it's because he was a man'. It's not just white men (although I agree race only gets mentioned when the attacker isn't white). It's a man problem, and in the US, a 'man with easy access to guns' problem.

I DO agree with pps criticising the coverage, as I've done myself in a previous post. It's a man, committing a man's crime.

Exactly.

Does anyone remember that ninja clad 'trans' shooter that happened in the middle of the UK night in about 2018/9, that the internet effectively wiped and by morning in the UK it hadn't happened and was not recorded anywhere? I watched as webpages loaded and then disappeared before my eyes.

Of course his trans identity is important. There have been a number of school shootings in the US over recent years where the shooter identified as trans.

To understand the problem, to put in place interventions to try to prevent this, the authorities need to know 'why'. Yes being male is a factor, but its only part of the picture. Some of the other school shooters were female.

So why is this happening. Are people with significant mental health problems attracted to gender ideology. Does it help them, does it make their problems worse. Conversely does adopting a trans identity lead to the development or exacerbation of mental health problems. Do cross sex hormones have a role to play. What about social isolation (though Minneapolis is a very trans positive state and his parents appear to have been affirming)

I could go on but you get the picture.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/02/18/alleged-leader-transgender-vegan-cult-six-deaths-arrested/

Then there is the Zizian cult.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/08/16/inside-the-trans-vegan-death-cult/

In some ways, the Zizians are precisely a product of their privileged backgrounds. They drank deep on narratives of trans victimhood, on the bigotry of mainstream society and on the need to ward off an apocalyptic future. Their view of the world is a Manichaean one, divided up into ‘good’ and ‘evil’ people, the latter of whom no doubt deserve to die. It is what their prep schools and universities had drilled into them since they were kids. They differed from their peers only in their arrogance, self-righteousness and literal-mindedness.
The Zizians tick all the same boxes as the cults of old – murder, intimidation and a messiah-like leader. But they come with some 21st-century updates. Trans, vegan and convinced of their own moral rectitude, they are very much a cult of our time.

Doctors have been recklessly cavalier about interfering with the hormones of their patients. I am not a doctor or any sort of HCP or scientist, but I don't think we have the knowledge to be confident about the safety of doing this. I seem to recall that a couple of young women on testosterone have been school shooters.

Because once a country is full of guns, it becomes very difficult and dangerous to reverse that.

I completely agree. If I lived in America, I would be infinitely more concerned about guns than I would be about trans people. You only have to look at the truly horrifying statistics for gun deaths and injuries to see which is the most urgent problem. In fact, I would neither live in nor visit the US for precisely that reason.

If I lived in America, I would be infinitely more concerned about guns than I would be about trans people. You only have to look at the truly horrifying statistics for gun deaths and injuries to see which is the most urgent problem.

It's not a competition on what is worse for women. It's not either/or. Women can multitask. We can be concerned about guns and mass shootings at the same time as care about womens rights. Why do people always feel the need to delegitimise and invalidate the threat of males in female spaces by comparing it to something else and making it a competition?

Copies of the killer's journal are online. I won't link to them for legal reasons. Look on X if you want to see.

However in it he talks about his conflicts over his trans identity, his desire to look "cute" and even mentions wanting to look "pretty" when he goes on his murder spree.

his desire to look "cute" and even mentions wanting to look "pretty" when he goes on his murder spree.

Sexual fetish yet again. 🙄

Its too late to solve the gun control issue in the States. There are more guns than people, and absolutely no chance of getting even half off the streets.

Other approaches are needed, different interventions to stop people from becoming mass shooters. This guys social media output had red flags all over it, but no one appears to have done anything about it.

There’s been a recurrent problem with serious crimes being committed in the US while out on bail/early release. So that’s why it’s now sometimes included in this kind of reporting

Yes, that jumped out at me too.

Because they want you to think it is solely a gun issue, that his trans identity was not a contributing factor …

I get it that this part of MN has a particular agenda against trans people, but the vast majority of shootings in the US are carried out by CIS white males who are far right/fascists. This shooter seems to be far right too. Yet you focus on their apparent trans status as the reason for this rather than what it is that links them to the other shooters, which is their right wing ideology. The same right wing ideology that would seek to whittle away at womens rights by curtailing abortion rights and the right to vote. If you don't believe me about the right to vote thing, see here: https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/21/politics/john-gibbs-womens-suffrage-19th-amendment-kfile/index.html Womens rights are being attacked by the far right both in the US and the UK. They're pointing at trans people and telling you you should be scared of them instead.

Most school shootings are actually committed by young black males. In fact 60% of them: https://edition.cnn.com/2023/11/27/health/school-shootings-study

When you redefine it as a mass shooting (iirc defined as at least three fatalities), it skews white and East Asian.

So some school shootings are very ‘black coded’ (interpersonal violence) and some ‘white coded’ (indiscriminate mass shootings).