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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Non fatal strangulation and choking during sex

725 replies

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 07:39

Grim read.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62zwy0nex0o

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SunnyViper · 13/03/2025 09:37

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 07:50

I was thinking about this yesterday. Why do men seem to enjoy it? DH does this to me every time we have sex… it’s never been discussed, it’s just “normal”.

Why do you have sex with him? That would have stopped the first time he did it.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 09:38

WavyRavey · 13/03/2025 09:35

I'll be honest I don't really care, I just wanted to show the opinion from someone who does do it safely that it can be done, it's up to them to research it and talk about it, not me 🤷‍♀️

Thanks for your input.

You don't care, therefore you can allow the rest of us to try and work out how best to minimise the risks to girls and young women.

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withthegreatestrespect · 13/03/2025 09:38

Somebody in the room should be CPR trained.

Hopefully not the person being strangled🙄

notatinydancer · 13/03/2025 09:39

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 07:50

I was thinking about this yesterday. Why do men seem to enjoy it? DH does this to me every time we have sex… it’s never been discussed, it’s just “normal”.

Do you feel safe to tell him to stop it ?

Grammarnut · 13/03/2025 09:39

AgnesX · 13/03/2025 07:59

There's nothing normal about it. At best it's a kink. I hope the sex is good enough to be worthy of the risk.

It's not worth the risk - and it is definitely a kink and a power trip.

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/03/2025 09:39

Heard an item on the news saying this is to be made illegal.

Mmhmmn · 13/03/2025 09:40

RaininSummer · 13/03/2025 07:57

The idea of choking is horrible and strikes me as an expression of men's underlying dislike of women and the need to show dominance. It was not a thing ever heard of when I was a young woman. I worry for my granddaughters.

Hard agree. A particularly awful misogynistic trend spread by (anti)social media.

No one should accept this. Ever. It is NOT normal to want to choke a woman, ever.

Leave and divorce.

Felicityjoy · 13/03/2025 09:41

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 07:50

I was thinking about this yesterday. Why do men seem to enjoy it? DH does this to me every time we have sex… it’s never been discussed, it’s just “normal”.

If you don’t like it, I don’t understand why you don’t just tell him. Perhaps he’s been conditioned by porn to think it’s what you expect.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2025 09:41

Should we outlaw all non vanilla sex because some ott feminists have decided its too much for them to hear about, even if they don't participate? It's a bit much

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Nice.

My DD is 16 and still a virgin and has told me that she will stay that way until boys stop expecting this and anal as the norm. She's actually quite frightened that this is a possibility. So you could say she's pretty vanilla.

I'll continue to be an ott feminist if it raises awareness amongst our young people that certain practices are dangerous and disproportionately so to girls.

Calling it breath play and mocking others for their concern of the impact normalising it is having is really not a good look.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 09:41

PinotPony · 13/03/2025 09:34

I skirt around breath play when I’m in a D/s dynamic. I’m a 50 yo woman confident in what I like and I mix with people who are into BDSM. No self-loathing or self esteem issues.

I’ve done quite a lot of research and spoken to everyone from professional Doms to paramedics and martial arts instructors. I wanted to properly understand the risks I was taking so I could make an informed decision.

General wisdom is that you avoid any pressure on the trachea and gently squeeze on the carotid arteries to induce a feeling of lightheadedness. You shouldnt apply pressure for more than 5 seconds. Somebody in the room should be CPR trained. Blah blah blah… there’s loads of “rules” you can follow.

Fundamentally, there is no safe way to choke somebody. As soon as you restrict the airflow or blood supply to the brain, you’re at risk of causing neurological injury. The risk might be small but the consequences are huge. I always ask partners who want to engage in choking if they’d be happy to pay for the carers and wheelchairs I might need for the rest of my life, assuming they didn’t kill me.

I read a harrowing article about a woman who used to consensually waterboard her husband during sex. They’d done it for years with no problem. Until one day he had a seizure and she had to call an ambulance. Now she cuts up his food for him.

These days, I make it very clear that I’ll only engage in “fantasy chokes”. He can put his hand around my throat with all the domination and threat that suggests, but the second he applies any significant pressure I’m calling my safe word. It’s just not worth the risk.

I'm just highlighting and reiterating this:

'... there is no safe way to choke somebody. As soon as you restrict the airflow or blood supply to the brain, you’re at risk of causing neurological injury. '

Whatever people's feelings on choking and strangulation, whether you feel it morally wrong or a daring way to 'empower' yourself, this is the crucial information that should be shared and understood by everyone.

Restricting blood supply or airflow can enhance orgasm. It can also cause serious injury or death.

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Mmhmmn · 13/03/2025 09:42

MrsSkylerWhite · 13/03/2025 09:39

Heard an item on the news saying this is to be made illegal.

I hope they hurry up. You cannot have young people growing up thinking this is acceptable or normal or worth trying even once.

Grammarnut · 13/03/2025 09:42

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/03/2025 08:24

I hope, and suspect, that younger generations of girls and women will move away from casual sex. It's never good sex, and it is certainly not liberating.

The sex drive and the agressive drive are linked through testosterone, certainly in men.

I hope this will be the case, too. Unfortunately, casual sex has been sold to women as 'liberation', when it isn't at all, it's making oneself exploitable by men.

AnSolas · 13/03/2025 09:45

Mrsttcno1 · 13/03/2025 09:24

Where it is done without consent that is of course a huge issue.

But it is part of sex for lots of couples, totally consensually, and both parties can enjoy it. I don’t personally enjoy anal, that doesn’t mean I’m outraged that somebody else does enjoy it, it’s just not for me so not part of my sex life. Don’t do anything you don’t want to do, don’t shame anybody else for enjoying things you don’t.

So who pick up the tab if it all goes wrong?

Should the hospitals and courts ignore that someone ended up with brain damage?

Put it into a box labled its just like boxing maybe a little more risky with a little sex on the side?

Grammarnut · 13/03/2025 09:45

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 08:44

We’re both mid-30s but have been together 15 years and this has always been a feature. The sex isn’t great tbh but we’ve always had trouble discussing sex/wants/dislikes etc

Tell him now - or leave him. I hope you don't have DC with this thoughtless, dangerous man.

ArabellaScott · 13/03/2025 09:45

Grammarnut · 13/03/2025 09:42

I hope this will be the case, too. Unfortunately, casual sex has been sold to women as 'liberation', when it isn't at all, it's making oneself exploitable by men.

It's amazing how women's empowerment and liberation intersects with male fantasy, isn't it? Who knew.

Lib femmery, ladettes, and girlpower - how much harm has that done to young women?

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LadyKenya · 13/03/2025 09:47

Grammarnut · 13/03/2025 09:42

I hope this will be the case, too. Unfortunately, casual sex has been sold to women as 'liberation', when it isn't at all, it's making oneself exploitable by men.

The same as when Women were told the lie that they could have it all, and for many it resulted in work not only in the home, but outside of it as well, and burnout, and a reliance on ADs.

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 09:47

Mulledjuice · 13/03/2025 09:16

Have you ever done it to him?

No. He doesn’t squeeze really hard or anything like that and if I pull his hand away, he stops. I don’t particularly like it but never really thought to say no.

marmaladeandpeanutbutter · 13/03/2025 09:47

I don't believe women actively enjoy it. I think they do it for other social reasons.

BlondiePortz · 13/03/2025 09:47

It is not normal but men will do it if they get gullible women to fall for it, it's sickening but people choose to do it but there are women who will refuse to listen so nothing will change

Mmhmmn · 13/03/2025 09:47

Mrsttcno1 · 13/03/2025 09:24

Where it is done without consent that is of course a huge issue.

But it is part of sex for lots of couples, totally consensually, and both parties can enjoy it. I don’t personally enjoy anal, that doesn’t mean I’m outraged that somebody else does enjoy it, it’s just not for me so not part of my sex life. Don’t do anything you don’t want to do, don’t shame anybody else for enjoying things you don’t.

Completely different issue, obviously. No-one’s suffering loss of oxygen to their brain and risking death or actually dying just from engaging in anal sex.

ScrambledSmegs · 13/03/2025 09:49

There is no ‘safe’ way to deprive the brain of oxygen. Slapping a twee name on strangulation doesn’t change that.

If you think it’s safe then you know fuck all about the brain.

SpotlessLeopard · 13/03/2025 09:49

I think any man that wants to do this to a woman has serious issues and this is a huge red flag. I've never come across this in my life and it's worrying as a trend.

Mulledjuice · 13/03/2025 09:50

Needanewnamey · 13/03/2025 09:47

No. He doesn’t squeeze really hard or anything like that and if I pull his hand away, he stops. I don’t particularly like it but never really thought to say no.

I get that it can feel strange to say you don't like something that your partner has done for 15 years. But do you want this for another 30 years? That's the best case scenario.
The worst case scenario is that he accidentally kills you.

Grammarnut · 13/03/2025 09:51

WavyRavey · 13/03/2025 08:50

I've done breath play a lot with various people, if you're into it then you're into it 🤷‍♀️ it's easy to find how to be safe when doing it

And here she is! A woman who is telling us it can be safe and it's something you can be 'into' - it's fine and enjoyable.
@WavyRavey , it's not fine and it's never safe. It's not exciting or fun being strangled, it's frightening and terrifying. Sex is about loving someone and pleasing them with pleasurable acts, not half-killing them in the pursuit of your pleasure - and it will be his pleasure (rape, dominance fantasies) not yours.

ZebedeeDougalFlorence · 13/03/2025 09:52

RaininSummer · 13/03/2025 07:57

The idea of choking is horrible and strikes me as an expression of men's underlying dislike of women and the need to show dominance. It was not a thing ever heard of when I was a young woman. I worry for my granddaughters.

This is so scary! I worry so much for young women. I have noticed that a lot of young women who thought of themselves as straight are now having relationships with other women and finding other routes to motherhood outside heterosexual relationships.

My violent exh tried to strangle me. I am lucky to be alive and that I didn't experience brain damage (at least I don't think I did) because I felt myself losing consciousness as he did it. I have been single ever since I escaped the relationship and absolutely love my life. I couldn't have it any other way. I know it isn't all men, but I just can't risk it.