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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #8

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nauticant · 10/02/2025 10:54

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and is expected to continue for 2 weeks. The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton started giving evidence on Thursday 6 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely can be obtained by sending an email request to [email protected] headed Public Access Request (Peggie v Fife Health Board) 4104864/2024 and requesting access.

The hearing is being live tweeted by https://x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: https://tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.is/xkSxy.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: https://nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Thread 1: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5186317-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse

Thread 2: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5267591-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-thread-2

Thread 3: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268347-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-3

Thread 4: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5268942-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-4

Thread 5: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269149-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-5

Thread 6: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5269635-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-6

Thread 7: https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5270365-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-7

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Signalbox · 10/02/2025 12:56

He's a follower of Rachel Mckinnon.

PoshCoffee · 10/02/2025 12:56

Oh my goodness, this man is a doctor and he says he is biologically female.
I’m so so embarrassed for him and his family.

RobinEllacotStrike · 10/02/2025 12:56

DrU "I am biologically female"

FFS!

ThreeWordHarpy · 10/02/2025 12:56

I’m biological, I’m female therefore I’m a biological woman.

FriedGold32 · 10/02/2025 12:56

Oh God the old Veronica Ivy defence, he's biological don't you know?

BountiesAreUnderrated · 10/02/2025 12:56

Oh my DU is saying he's biologically female

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 10/02/2025 12:56

'I'm not a robot! So i am biological'.

😂 Jesus H Christ!

CriticalCondition · 10/02/2025 12:56

BU Biologically female and male are nebulous concepts. I am biologically female.

SauvignonBlanche · 10/02/2025 12:57

Biology is nebulous says the qualified Dr

BraveFacesEveryone · 10/02/2025 12:57

Boiledbeetle · 10/02/2025 12:56

Did he just say he was biologically female??

Yes. Yes he did.

CoaltownFifer · 10/02/2025 12:57

"I am biologically female" says the man born doctor. Scary!

MJHereWeGo · 10/02/2025 12:57

"biologically female" is nebulous ....

OMFG

StellaAndCrow · 10/02/2025 12:57

Oh god he's going for the Veronica Ivy/Rachel McKinnon tack! "I'm not a robot, I'm biological and I'm a woman so I'm a biological woman!"

ghostofadog · 10/02/2025 12:57

DU thinks he's biologically female 😂

eatfigs · 10/02/2025 12:57

Amazing that a doctor pretends not to know what biologically male and female means.

ArabellaScott · 10/02/2025 12:57

NC - what distinguishes you from a cis woman?

BU - a TW is a woman who is assiged male sex at birth, now wishes to live their life as a woman

NC - what causes you to be assigned male at birth

BU - doc looks at genitalia makes a best guess

Boiledbeetle · 10/02/2025 12:57

DU: Transwoman AMAB
Yes mate that's the bloody point.

ArabellaScott · 10/02/2025 12:57

BU - I'm not an obstetrician

NoBinturongsHereMate · 10/02/2025 12:57

His medical.licence should be revoked, with that level of scientific illiteracy.

themostspecialelfintheworkshop · 10/02/2025 12:57

The terms of biologically female and biologically male are 'nebulous' according to DU. Get this doctor away from patients! This belief is actually DANGEROUS. You need certain drugs / drug dosages based on your actual sex not your gender identity. FFS.

Iamnotalemming · 10/02/2025 12:57

BIOLOGICALLY A WOMAN he says
I am shouting at myself in the kitchen

ChimpanzeeThatMonkeyNews · 10/02/2025 12:57

Signalbox · 10/02/2025 12:56

He's a follower of Rachel Mckinnon.

I remember him saying the biological thing as well.
And it's no cleverer hearing it today.

RobinEllacotStrike · 10/02/2025 12:57

GO INUTERO NC!!!

SameyMcNameChange · 10/02/2025 12:57

Hmmmm. But he went through male puberty, yes?

fanOfBen · 10/02/2025 12:58

Thank God he's not an obstetrician if that's what he thinks happens.

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