"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

[crimplepop]

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

How on earth do you suggest a UK based voter would "deal with the democrats problem with women"?

The only thing most of us can do is express our opinion 😂

I think that's very much an interpretation of the event.

Lots of people do and did not see that particular protest as representing anything like those things, whatever some people at the event might have thought.

You can decide what you want to go to for yourself. But if you are judging other people's choices to attend with the assumption they see themselves approving of or allied to such a wide set of ideas, you will be wrong. They aren't thinking of those things at all. Any more than a guy at a BLM protest is wanting to shut down police stations, or abolish the family.

Edit: Not sure why the post I was answering didn't appear - sorry!

Sure. Clearly they weren't like the communist nations. But then you could also say that about the Nordic "socialist" countries which are actually mixed systems.

It's not been particularly unusual for socialists to want to protect citizen workers from outsiders either.

The ethnicity stuff wasn't from a socialist source, but I don't think anyone is claiming it was. Just that they saw themselves as drawing from socialism and had some socialist elements in their system.

Perhaps you could explain what you believe that rally was about, seeing as you don't agree with the main organiser about that?

As the meteor hits the earth and we all hurtle screaming towards the grave, I fully expect the last words I hear to be certain bloody mumsnetters arguing about that bloody Tommy Robinson rally.

Well certain "bloody mumsnetters" will not be silenced by the self appointed monitors and those who believe that KJK is the second bloody coming.

It's a very old cliché, but lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.

You must get a bit bored of talking about the same rally though surely?

Of course…..

So why isn’t your opinion that IF the democrats addressed their issue with what a women is, then KJK would be an irrelevance?

Same in the UK if Labour would address the issues wrt the definition of sex in the Equality Act & make it clear that sex based spaces are sexed based rather than gender based, POW would fade into insignificance.

Nothing is "totally uncontroversial and universally supported." The preponderance of evidence shows that there is bias, yet you bring up one researcher as if it's some huge "gotcha!"
You might as well bring up the few scientists who claim anthropogenic climate change is a myth while you're at it to challenge the claim that it is an unassailable fact.
A preponderance of evidence is all that is necessary in a claim of fact.
So I'll continue going around telling people that yes, there is racial bias in policing, yes climate change is real and yes, the earth is flat, whether you approve or not.

I do get bored of those people who believe that they have some superiority on these boards, who then attempt to stifle debate by deciding that only one person could possibly hold a view that they don't agree with. I can only suggest if you find the discussion boring, that you don't engage with it.

For my own education.

Not about the topic of course, because as predicted, there is nothing that has been said on this thread that hasn’t been said on the umpteen other threads about KJK.

No, I am here for education about the posters here. Like the OP who hasn’t been back which has been conveniently ignored by most. Usually if an OP doesn’t engage then the thread is (should be) ignored, But threads on this topic aren’t, they are regularly perpetuated by people. And certain posters only pop up on threads about KJK, or threads about right wing vs left wing. I like to see patterns and posting histories. It’s helpful even when people name change. I’m interested in what’s behind it, and I am also interested (as of earlier this year) in the fact it adds to the data to be scraped by certain people and what tactics might be behind that.

I usually lurk on threads like these and see the same patterns and don’t bother, but I was genuinely hopeful someone might offer an original or creative approach to discussing the same topic, but perhaps not surprisingly, I have been left disappointed 🤣🤣. So trite.

What original or creative approach were you hoping for @NotBadConsidering?

The earth is flat??!!

Well that’s just it, isn’t it? I can’t think of anything and it seems like no one else can either. Just the same thread umpteen times over.

This sounds good to me but how are you defining this?

What's happening for the ideology to be over?

I could say the same about threads on Lisa Nandy....
Threads on Imane Khelif....
Threads on Stonewall....
Etc etc

I disagree. This thread is about KJK not only endorsing the rapist Donald Trump for POTUS, but proclaiming him the only hope for the world!

I'm pretty sure we haven't had this thread before.

It's often difficult to have any type of reasonable conversation here because there is a cohort intent on sabotage, so threads are endlessly derailed.

I missed the edit window. 😄

😂

Yep, I don't think we have either

I'm pretty sure we haven't had this thread before.

In that case, why are the first 10 pages filled with all the same stuff? I look forward to this thread taking an interesting twist into an area that is somehow novel…

Otherwise threads started like this are no different to the half term “feminists smell” threads, just a tad more sophisticated.

No, there really isn't any such consensus on their being a bias in terms of police killings. It's quite a live question, and how to understand it is complicated by the fact that violent crimes aren't represented proportionately across race.

There are actually better correlations than race in terms of likelihood of being harassed or inappropriately targeted by police, specifically neighbourhood and class.

I think it was about two-tier policing. And people who went were mainly people who say themselves in some way being affected by two tier policing.

That's quite a lot of different, disparate groups. Often not otherwise politically connected in the normal run of things.

I daresay most would agree that two tier policing is a bad thing, even when it's groups they politically disagree with.