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"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

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crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

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Daleksatemyshed · 11/09/2024 19:04

@Autumnismyfavouritetimeofyear I don't think Don Don's grip on reality is too tight

Grammarnut · 11/09/2024 19:09

dropoutin · 11/09/2024 17:55

Generally I'd agree about people being entitled to voice political opinions I disagree with. But no, in this case he isn't a legitimate candidate and people are not entitled to support him.

He's a fascist who has already incited an insurrection to overthrow the democratic process when it didn't go his way, and has made no secret of his willingness to do so again.

You can argue about whatever you like within the scope of what a democratically elected government might do, with the standing proviso that if people don't like it they can vote them out. Argue about tax rates, immigration policy, abortion, whatever. Sure, make an argument that Trump is right about these things and if enough people agree, those of us who hate him will just have to suck it up.

But once you start denying the principles of democracy itself, and promoting someone to be leader who refuses to acknowledge them, who intends to impose pure authoritarianism instead, then you're having a different argument.

You can't have a legitimate candidate in a race who doesn't acknowledge the rules of the race.

Trump is not a fascist and he is a legitimate candidate. He did not incite insurrection and the US did not have such in January 2020 - they had a pretty violent demonstration and someone let protestors into the Capitol. Five people died because the US has a stupid gun culture.
Look up 'fascist' and you will not find that populist, very conservative Mr Trump fits. Glad I do not have to vote for either him or Harris.

Zita60 · 11/09/2024 19:16

Grammarnut · 11/09/2024 19:09

Trump is not a fascist and he is a legitimate candidate. He did not incite insurrection and the US did not have such in January 2020 - they had a pretty violent demonstration and someone let protestors into the Capitol. Five people died because the US has a stupid gun culture.
Look up 'fascist' and you will not find that populist, very conservative Mr Trump fits. Glad I do not have to vote for either him or Harris.

I agree he's not an actual fascist, and it can be argued he didn't specifically incite a violent invasion of the Capitol on 6th January, although he was happy to let it continue for several hours before being persuaded to call it off by posting on Twitter.

But he has been undermining democratic elections for years, peddling unsubstantiated lies about election fraud and damaging people's trust in elections. To me, that makes him very dangerous, because he will do the same thing this year. Without democratic elections, with a general acceptance of the result and a peaceful handover of power, the US would no longer be a mature democratic country.

Lovelyview · 11/09/2024 19:52

I notice the op never came back to explain what 'it' is.

CassieMaddox · 11/09/2024 19:52

You are brave OP - I debated starting a thread but decided I couldn't be bothered

Here's a relevant Twitter thread for people who are on there

https://x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1833687418433933634

At least there won't be any more "people calling her a Trump supporters hate her!"

I am wondering after the last 24 hours if she's being paid. She's said some pretty out there things. Including accusing pretty much everyone of "mutilating children". If it isn't for money, I'm a bit worried for her mental health.

"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."
"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."
"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."
CassieMaddox · 11/09/2024 19:57

Grammarnut · 11/09/2024 19:09

Trump is not a fascist and he is a legitimate candidate. He did not incite insurrection and the US did not have such in January 2020 - they had a pretty violent demonstration and someone let protestors into the Capitol. Five people died because the US has a stupid gun culture.
Look up 'fascist' and you will not find that populist, very conservative Mr Trump fits. Glad I do not have to vote for either him or Harris.

Interesting. I actually did do this a few years ago when he was a candidate in 2016 (after a question on "Any Questions) and my conclusion was he did have tendencies, after reading this

https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

Not seen anything that's changed my mind

Umberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

One of the key questions today is can we use words like fascism with fidelity to the meaning of that word in world history?

https://www.openculture.com/2016/11/umberto-eco-makes-a-list-of-the-14-common-features-of-fascism.html

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 19:59

Sorry, but that is madness.
Does she really believe given his hatred of women and vengeful resentment
on the back of his rape case that Trump is going to play nice for women?

And his history of being flattered by every enemy of the US?
As if he wouldnt be dough in the hands of cynical Tras.
I expect she is being flattered by Maga on her trip and possibly getting donations, because like Donald she will increasingly do anything for flattery and attention.
Sarah Philimore once said to me, give someone a Youtube channel and a worshipful audience and it will send them insane.

Much as I dislike Kamala and the Dems on Gender id at least the tide is turning via courtcases.
As to KJKs understanding of Geopolitics, its non existant. Trump at this stage of global affairs would be utterly disastrous.

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 20:01

@Daleksatemyshed
Or Kjks by the sound of it. Thats a great username by the way.

WhereAreWeNow · 11/09/2024 20:02

CassieMaddox · 11/09/2024 19:52

You are brave OP - I debated starting a thread but decided I couldn't be bothered

Here's a relevant Twitter thread for people who are on there

https://x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1833687418433933634

At least there won't be any more "people calling her a Trump supporters hate her!"

I am wondering after the last 24 hours if she's being paid. She's said some pretty out there things. Including accusing pretty much everyone of "mutilating children". If it isn't for money, I'm a bit worried for her mental health.

I also assumed she was getting paid when I saw her pro Trump tweets. It's very odd.

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 20:05

@WhereAreWeNow
Yes

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 20:15

CassieMaddox · 11/09/2024 19:52

You are brave OP - I debated starting a thread but decided I couldn't be bothered

Here's a relevant Twitter thread for people who are on there

https://x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1833687418433933634

At least there won't be any more "people calling her a Trump supporters hate her!"

I am wondering after the last 24 hours if she's being paid. She's said some pretty out there things. Including accusing pretty much everyone of "mutilating children". If it isn't for money, I'm a bit worried for her mental health.

How dare she attack Bev Jackson for poor judgement!
What hypocrisy and projection.
While I deeply appreciate the hard work and risks taken by SFW and
all the women who speak out, KJK is now just a liability
who gives ammunition to every one against us, from Tras to rightwing misogynists.
She has no shame anymore about being divisive or undermining or causing controversy to boost her ego.

Lovelyview · 11/09/2024 20:19

CassieMaddox · 11/09/2024 19:52

You are brave OP - I debated starting a thread but decided I couldn't be bothered

Here's a relevant Twitter thread for people who are on there

https://x.com/ThePosieParker/status/1833687418433933634

At least there won't be any more "people calling her a Trump supporters hate her!"

I am wondering after the last 24 hours if she's being paid. She's said some pretty out there things. Including accusing pretty much everyone of "mutilating children". If it isn't for money, I'm a bit worried for her mental health.

She's definitely said something supportive of Trump before. She also argues that you should be allowed to discriminate against people who identify as trans. I don't think anyone has dismissed it as being an untrue representation of her views - she records videos and posts tweets with those views and has for a while. She did get an apology from an Australian politician who accused her of being a neo Nazi sympathiser. I'd be surprised if she was being paid to endorse Trump. I disagree with her and obviously a lot of gender critical people disagree with her. A lot agree with her, especially in America.

Wenzles · 11/09/2024 21:24

ReadWithScepticism · 11/09/2024 17:51

I only ever come across KJK via threads commenting on how awful she is.
She does indeed sound awful, but why does that matter? Why does she matter? In my mind I group her with social media influencers -- people who are big in some social media bubbles but essentially irrelevant, despite forays into the real world from time to time.

Agreed, she's an increasingly irrelevant youtuber.

NoSnowdrop · 11/09/2024 21:28

Can we see what?

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 21:34

I see the usual parties have appeared to say their usual piece.

I also assumed she was getting paid when I saw her pro Trump tweets. It's very odd.

Will that be the mythical right wing Christian money that we are all meant to be swimming in?

MrsTerryPratchett · 11/09/2024 21:44

Can I get an A?
Can I get a D?

I've lost patience. Selling ad hominin is hard.

lifeturnsonadime · 11/09/2024 21:45

Wait, what’s the point in this thread? Is OP trying to suggest that because KJK supports Trump that she is wrong and that women are something other than Adult Human Females?

EasternStandard · 11/09/2024 21:48

Theeyeballsinthesky · 11/09/2024 18:13

god she lives rent free in soooo many peoples heads!

Still. That's some long term commitment

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 21:59

lifeturnsonadime · 11/09/2024 21:45

Wait, what’s the point in this thread? Is OP trying to suggest that because KJK supports Trump that she is wrong and that women are something other than Adult Human Females?

We are actually lizards.

XChrome · 11/09/2024 22:07

Grammarnut · 11/09/2024 19:09

Trump is not a fascist and he is a legitimate candidate. He did not incite insurrection and the US did not have such in January 2020 - they had a pretty violent demonstration and someone let protestors into the Capitol. Five people died because the US has a stupid gun culture.
Look up 'fascist' and you will not find that populist, very conservative Mr Trump fits. Glad I do not have to vote for either him or Harris.

Fascism is right wing, authoritian nationalism that uses both populism and race as a wedge.
So yes, he fits.

It was an attempted insurrection, which is why they attacked the seat of government. In what universe is breaking into to commit mayhem (and probably murder, they had threatened it) upon legislators going about their work a "protest?"
The fact that it did not succeed does not change that reality. Trump absolutely did egg them on.

LongtailedTitmouse · 11/09/2024 22:17

In what universe is breaking into to commit mayhem (and probably murder, they had threatened it) upon legislators going about their work a "protest?"

Not a protest?

www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/hundreds-palestinian-protesters-arrested-capitol-hill-ahead-netanyahu-rcna163368

XChrome · 11/09/2024 22:21

Menopausalsourpuss · 11/09/2024 19:47

Many democrats have also been undermining the rule of law and inciting violence for years including Nancy Pelosi and kamala. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/2333041/its-time-to-hold-democrats-accountable-for-the-lies-that-incite-riots-and-violence/ Imo both kamala and trump are bad I think I would just not vote if I lived there.

The WE is a right wing rag and that was merely an opinion piece with zero facts to back up the silly conclusions being made. In fact, there were outright lies in that piece.

It is not a lie that POC are disproportionately both targeted and killed by police. That is a stone cold, unassailable fact.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity/

https://www.vox.com/identities/2016/8/13/17938186/police-shootings-killings-racism-racial-disparities

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Black people more than three times as likely as white people to be killed during a police encounter

Black Americans are 3.23 times more likely than whites to be killed by police.

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/hsph-in-the-news/blacks-whites-police-deaths-disparity

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 22:23

@XChrome And nor is he 'very conservative'. He plays any side
he can exploit for his own gain, and swings around on a whim.
As to his personal behaviour and morals, by no possible description can they be called conservative.
He is a moral vacum.
And of course it was insurrection, there can be not the shadow of a doubt.
Imagine if that happened in Parliment?
That Grammarnut says otherwise is utterly bizarre

RaspberryParade · 11/09/2024 22:27

@LongtailedTitmouse Not sure of your point. I disagree with their tactics
but in this instance none of them resisted arrest according to the article.
Whats it got to do with the insurrection?

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