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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

"Trump is the only hope for the world. I hope Americans can see this."

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crimplepop · 11/09/2024 16:36

KJK going off on one again. Can you see it yet?

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timenowplease · 18/09/2024 18:10

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 18:04

Whenever I’ve queried before it’s about the feelings of the person who asks for it to be removed. On other boards some awful bullying posts are allowed to stand but not on this one. My worry is people look on this board and assume hate or transphobia which is not the case with deletions on this thread.

My worry is people look on this board and assume hate or transphobia

Exactly. I really think we should do something about it.

I imagine they'll have records of who makes the report. Should be easy enough to establish that someone has made thousands of vexatious reports. It's an abuse of the system and creates pointless work for mods who have more important things to do.

RufustheFactualReindeer · 18/09/2024 18:16

Or they are just bored with the deletions and lack of actual discussion

yep, on some threads the deletions come thick and fast and I’ve no interest in being deleted again for quite innocuous posts

RufustheFactualReindeer · 18/09/2024 18:19

My worry is people look on this board and assume hate or transphobia which is not the case with deletions on this thread

this

though on another thread a poster was saying that the deletions were down to personal attacks etc (not their wording but I’ve forgotten what they said…i am sure crass was in there though 🤔) and then they got deleted 😀😀😀

it was honestly very funny

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 18:25

The thing about deletions is that on most threads moderators are not watching. So if a deletion happens it’s only because someone has reported the post.

I find it quite funny that in a thread criticising KJK and Trump for their right wing views we have the thread police reporting posts in a way that hampers discussion and ignores any notion of freedom of speech.

I wonder if this will be deleted as something similar I posted up thread WAS deleted.

I personally don’t think the deletions do that poster any favours at all.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/09/2024 18:30

CassieMaddox · 18/09/2024 16:11

I've tried really hard to keep us on some kind of topic but it seems as always impossible to discuss Sad

Least we got a wee bit of humour injected into the thread.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/09/2024 19:13

I tend to find that posters who make vexatious reports in general on Mumsnet benefit from the lack of reciprocity, most FWR posters don't bother reporting, or think objectionable posts are best left up. It's often the case that the posts of vexatious posters are themselves quite abusive.

timenowplease · 18/09/2024 19:18

Ereshkigalangcleg · 18/09/2024 19:13

I tend to find that posters who make vexatious reports in general on Mumsnet benefit from the lack of reciprocity, most FWR posters don't bother reporting, or think objectionable posts are best left up. It's often the case that the posts of vexatious posters are themselves quite abusive.

Yes, it's a form of harassment.

CassieMaddox · 18/09/2024 20:20

I'd personally say it was a form of harassment to repeatedly put words in people's mouths, goad them, call them 'monitors', misrepresent previous threads, misrepresent their positions, post non-sequiturs like "I opened the thread, saw who was posting and closed it again", etc etc etc.
Or call people "vexatious" for following MNHQ rules about bullying.

Thread totally derailed by it now, which is ridiculous.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:23

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CassieMaddox · 18/09/2024 20:28

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No. Repeatedly goading and putting words in people's mouth is. It's not just me you've done it to. It is outrageous behaviour on your part, people ask you not to and you carry right on.

It has derailed a thread that several of us were finding interesting. I assume because the conversation is somehow threatening to you.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:31

CassieMaddox · 18/09/2024 20:28

No. Repeatedly goading and putting words in people's mouth is. It's not just me you've done it to. It is outrageous behaviour on your part, people ask you not to and you carry right on.

It has derailed a thread that several of us were finding interesting. I assume because the conversation is somehow threatening to you.

Wow. 😮

So my points aren’t interesting to you so shouldn’t be allowed and you think I am bullying you 😮?

I stand by my last post and ask you why you think you get to control a discussion forum?

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:33

And what about the people who think that my posts are interesting from the point of view they look at matters from a different perspective?

don’t their opinions count,

you’ve talked about echo chambers on here and it seems that’s what you want?

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/09/2024 20:34

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lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:35

and let’s not forget I am the person who got called a massive bell end for thinking that the democrats might hold some responsibility for their position on what a woman is!

im not often shocked . But this is really 😮

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:36

Another deletion. 🙄

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:37

Freedom of speech not allowed on a discussion forum 😮

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/09/2024 20:37

It’s so ridiculous.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:38

And I was offering sympathy to Cassie on that post 🙄

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:42

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 18/09/2024 20:37

It’s so ridiculous.

Yep I do think Mumsnet need to sort out talk guidelines now.
not being an echo chamber isn’t bullying

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:44

Because at the moment a difference of opinion and robust debate seems to be against talk guidelines.

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:46

And that must go against the spirit of a discussion forum ? What’s the point of a discussion forum if discussion is classed as bullying 🙄

RufustheFactualReindeer · 18/09/2024 20:50

And to be very honest although I completely agree that bullying can and does take place on mumsnet, and racism and homophobia and islamaphobia and transphobia and misogyny etc

i do resent the implication that having a post deleted means that you said something awful and possibly racist, bullying, homphobic etc

especially on a forum that has deleted ‘bless’ and ‘i can see why your posts are being deleted’

lifeturnsonadime · 18/09/2024 20:57

At the start of this thread I had posts deleted for the crime of recognising that Cassie used to post under a different user name.

timenowplease · 18/09/2024 21:08

CassieMaddox · 18/09/2024 20:20

I'd personally say it was a form of harassment to repeatedly put words in people's mouths, goad them, call them 'monitors', misrepresent previous threads, misrepresent their positions, post non-sequiturs like "I opened the thread, saw who was posting and closed it again", etc etc etc.
Or call people "vexatious" for following MNHQ rules about bullying.

Thread totally derailed by it now, which is ridiculous.

I'd personally say it was a form of harassment to repeatedly put words in people's mouths,

@Alwaystired94 has done that done that to me repeatedly on this thread. Have you reported any of their posts?

post non-sequiturs like "I opened the thread, saw who was posting and closed it again

This one you'll have to explain as I don't see why this is problematic, offensive or bullying. It's also not a non-sequitur.

Or call people "vexatious" for following MNHQ rules about bullying.

This one you'll have to explain too. It was me who used the word vexatious. I stand by that. How do you know the people reporting the posts are not being vexatious. Are you privy to information we are not?

Thread totally derailed

You can't control what other people say and what they want to talk about and what direction conversations take.

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