Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 5

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R

OU Departments & Networks:

HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

Must keep the heretic away from the poor children.

Is this person a transman?

BC: reading what CW wanted to do, ie to keep JP out of everything, away from the kids etc with her awful views.

BC: the idea of JP doing research re children from GC perspective - you'll take legal action if poss to stop her

CW was unhappy that the email was included in the bundled and protested at the time but was unable to have any influence on the amount of redaction he wanted.

CW: most worried c JP doing research c transgenderism in children.

Well isn't CW just the gift that keep on giving?

CW wanted email redacted more and unhappy it wasn't.

[no idea why he is upset - surely nothing to hide?]

And so early in the week, @AutumnCrow.

I'm confused.

So what if Jo was going to research 'transgenderism in children'??

@Mmmnotsure I think because it was making wild accusations about JP.

CW wanted to shield them from JP's hate!

I need a sarcasm emoji!

Don't think so. Has academic publications under this name back to at least 2000, anyway - not that that necessarily means anything with "Chris" (abbreviated back then too).

wrt BC's voice or the CW testimony? The email does seem fairly damning.

BC: Guardian letter simply asked gvt to protect GC research from being shut down.

CW: long pause. [There are lots of long pauses] No, talked c things not being funded.

BC: You are applying your irrational fears c GC belief.

[irrational fears on the bingo card pls]

CW says more than once that he thinks his email to Helen Bowes-Catton which BC has taken him too was not redacted enough in the bundle. He made objections seeking further redactions which were turned down.

I'm not on Twitter so can't see it as TT are live tweeting, but does CW not realise what he's said about Jo P in his haste to make himself look virtuous - that Jo approached her research with 'hate' in her heart and not the cool, rational head that researchers are supposed to have? How can he think he looks good saying this? Beggars belief.

BC: email to Dr Bowes Catton. Your aversion to JP and her GC ws such that you wouldn't act as her trades union rep.

CW: Not just cos of that

I think this is Chris Williams

I meant CW testimony, @RethinkingLife. Though, by the end of today, who knows?

CW: prepared to resign as TU rep rather than help JP

Another one with a NB kid, by the sound of it.

So he was going to refuse to union rep her? What an arrogant prick.

CW - didn't think I could offer union rep to the claimant if this went ahead because of people I was close to who were trans and nb. I offered my resignation which was refused.

But, but, but the letter, @chilling19

The mean old letter! 😩

Twat. 🤨