Prof Jo Phoenix vs The OU - Employment Tribunal Thread 5

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Started on 2nd October at Watford Employment Tribunal (Radius House, 51 Clarendon Rd, Watford WD17 1HP 01923 281750)

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URGENT CURRENT CASE - Public Access Request - J Phoenix - The Open University - 3322700/2021

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Abbreviations

JP - Jo Phoenix, Claimant (C)
OU - The Open University, Respondent (R)
J - Regional Employment Judge Young
P - Panel or panel member
BC - Ben Cooper KC, Counsel for C
JM - Jane Mulcahy KC, Counsel for R

OU Departments & Networks:

HWSRA - Health & Wellbeing Strategic Research Area
FASS - Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
SPC - Dept of Social Policy & Criminology
KMi - Knowledge Media Institute
GCRN - Gender Critical Research Network

OU witnesses

PB - Dr Paraskevi Boukli, Former Senior Lecturer Criminology, Deputy Head SPC 2021-22
IF - Prof Ian Fribbance Dean of FASS
MW - Prof Marcia Wilson, Dean EDI, 2020-23
CM - Caragh Molloy, Group People Director 2019-23
LD - Dr Leigh Downes, Senior Lecturer in Criminology (in SPC), Academic Lead for EDI FASS 2019-21
PK - Peter Keogh, Professor Health & Society, Member RSSH
DD - Dr Deborah Drake, Senior Lecturer Criminology, Head of SPC 2018-21
CT - Catherine Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
LW - Louise Westmarland, Prof of Criminology, Co-Deputy Head SPC, 2018-21, Current Head SPC
JD - John Domingue, Prof of Computing Science, Director KMi, 2015-22
CW - Dr Christopher Williams, Senior Lecturer History
SD - Shaun Daley, Head OU’s Resourcing Hub. Head Strategic Resources, Co-Chair OU’s LGBT+ Staff Network
HBC - Helen Bowes-Catton, Lecturer Social Research Methods
NS - Nicola Snarey, Assoc Lecturer Eng Language
NatS - Natalie Starkey, Outreach & Public Engagement Officer Sch Physical Sciences, 2019-22
CT - Cath Tomlinson, Senior Student Advisor
SJ - Samantha Jacobson, Employee Relations Case Manager
RH - Richard Holliman, Prof Engaged Research, Head School Environment, Earth & Ecosystem Sciences, 2019-22. Member of Investigation Panel investigating the C’s grievance

Witness for JP:

SE - Sarah Earle, Professor Modern History Uni of Oxford, Founding member GCRN

Tribunal Tweets - https://twitter.com/tribunaltweets

TT coverage so far - tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/professor-jo-phoenix-v-the-open-university

Prof Jo Phoenix Witness Statement (scroll to bottom of page and download)

https://jophoenix.substack.com/p/phoenix-v-open-university?sd=pf

Thread 1 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4905118-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-2nd-october-whispers-ben-cooper?page=1

Thread 2 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4913946-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-2?page=1

Thread 3 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4917480-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-3

Thread 4 https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/4918479-prof-jo-phoenix-vs-the-ou-employment-tribunal-thread-4

It was on the right hand side of the fundraiser, under Recent Donations - between George and Georgina's donations. 10k from Anonymous.
Sorry we can't link the page here.
Woo hoo! What a boost!

I know it's hard to reign in those idiots, but isn't it the judge's job, and duty, to keep people to time. Especially if they take the piss putting up 18 witnesses.

What next? The cleaner was offended by Jo's wild transphobic claims? FFS!

There do need to be penalties for the 'call ten million long winded and insane witnesses, have a bundle the size of Wales (and fuck it up) and try quite openly to make the person bankrupt and unable to afford justice' game.

It's becoming tediously repetitive in certain circles. The whole of British law needs updating to deal with people in bad faith.

Could that perchance be a certain well known author of children's wizardry and adult private detective novels, and special guest today at FiLiA?

Novice gardener here. Where do I find the link to sow a few carrots?

Stick the term Jo Phoenix into an Internet search. You'll find a crowd funding site high up in the results.

You'll find a nice dug-over bed, ready for some fine tilth and seeds in her Twitter header
https://twitter.com/JoPhoenix1?

or by searching a good horticultural site for Crowd Justice and a plant that bears her full name

Thanks Lark!

The engine is running. £13,665 to go.

Can anyone remember what witnesses will be appearing tomorrow?

You mean, what bullying, time wasting charlatans?

I hope Ben's managed to recharge his batteries a wee bit, at least.

This is a rough idea of a list for the morning

Thank you for the updates, wims. I am working for a good few hours tomorrow so will be looking in on this thread when I can. Have been gardening this afternoon as well.

I read Prof Sarah Earle's Witness Statement this morning. Has she been called as a witness?

Many thanks. I've found and read Sarah Earle's statement. When did people stop being able to think? What a shitshow!

I think she was witnessing after Jo but there was no sound for people watching remotely.

Thanks for finding that post.

If I recall rightly, Chris Williams is the trans activist Historian who is among those named in Pilgrim Tucker's tribunal against the OU. Should be easy pickings for Ben.

What's awful about all this is the OU and it's activist Left ethos is happy to hang out to dry a middle class academic like Jo, and similarly a resolutely working class woman like Pilgrim, who is also disabled (am I right about that?).

So, this isn't any kind of genuine social justice movement, it's primarily a caste system, where you promote yourself by stepping on other women. Jo is a traditional left wing academic, as is Pilgrim. In any sane world, they would be lauded and celebrated by the Left.

Of course, in academia and all other Left dominated institutions, sanity doesn't reign.

What's awful about all this is the OU and it's activist Left ethos is happy to hang out to dry a middle class academic like Jo, and similarly a resolutely working class woman like Pilgrim, who is also disabled (am I right about that?).

The connecting factor being that they are both women. I’d say I’m reasonably lefty but, much as it sticks in my craw to say so, left wing politics in this country are no friend to women. It’s middle class men and working class men looking out for their own interests. You would think the unions would be pro-women but they’re the damned worst.

I had to go back a few pages, but I knew I'd seen it! Thanks to you and @CriticalCondition I don't feel so brain foggy any more

That info about Williams / Pilgrim Tucker is really interesting, thank you. I hadn't made the connection.

I've morphed from a young man who rolled my eyes at hearing how women were treated in society to in my dotage being super aware.

If you'd have told me the Left were endemic perpetrators of terror against women, I'd have laughed. Surely it was the boss class and violent husbands.

What we all have to realise is that stuff like the OU is the Left in microcosm. It's not the far Left like SWP, it's the mainstream view. This is men and their handmaidens who control the Left discourse. This is what will run thru any Labour administration if Starmer wins, like words thru a stick of rock.

And as I mentioned on the Pilgrim Tucker thread, Chris Williams is also in the Green Party. It all links together.

Morning all. 👋

I see people have been busy this weekend with the poetry and prose. 😁

What wild eyed loons will we get today? I can't remember the line up.

Morning ickky thanks so much for doing this. Invaluable.