NBC are quoting a police chief in Nashville...

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That's all I'm saying - Google is your friend and it's in the byline.

Probably will get deleted but I'm not speculating I'm just passing on a news update.

Not our crimes.

@JoyousAsOtters I'm not sure what you mean? This would be wouldn't it?

Look up the recent NBC update for the shocking news that absolutely no one could have guessed.

I've googled, but reports are the opposite to what I was expecting.



NBC are reporting it, so I think it’s beyond speculation now. A trans-identifying female. Second school shooting by a TIF in the last few years.
AFAIK there has never been a school shooting by someone biologically female but not trans-identifying.

It's a trans identifying female

Ie not a transwoman, a natal woman.

The name Audrey Hale is what led me to the report from NBC updated 16 minutes ago

So a trans man?

Yes

I wonder if this is the crazed, militant transactivist reaction to recent legislation passed in Tennessee?

I'm not so sure - the language is getting harder to unravel. The BBC used the phrase "trans gender females are not allowed to participate in women's events" and absolutely meant men when reporting on the recent world athletics decision

The reports are hard to decipher as the use of pronouns don't seem to tally with how this person identified? But seems to be a trans man.

It's very difficult to discern what is meant by transgender woman but looking at the photographs, I'd say this is a woman.

Appalling crime.

Bbc reporting:

They named the shooter, who died at the scene, as Audrey Hale, and they said she identified as a transgender woman.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-us-canada-65087221
(22:40 update today)

Looks ftm? Something I read said he/him pronouns used

Oh FFS this is why we need words to mean what they mean!!! Nothing is clear anymore but agree that the photo does look like an actual woman. Fuck me that is a genuine shock and I feel like a right twat now.

Sky news are reporting this to be a transwoman so seems like information is getting harder to understand with terms either misunderstood.
https://news.sky.com/story/nashville-school-shooting-woman-kills-three-children-and-three-adults-12843695

BBC: Transgender woman?! Didn't that used to mean MTF as TWAW?? I'm so confused

Arghhhhhhhhhggghhhh

It is still not clear. It says the shooter was a 28-year-old female who identified as transgender. Which implies a trans man?

There are also conflicting reports on whether she shot herself or was shot by police.

It is tragic, however the shooter identified.

FFS.

How did it come to this???

can I please go back to the '70's. It wasn't perfect, but it was a LOT better than all this crap. Boy/man girl/woman. Such a simple time.

Is there a link to a picture?
All the news sites seem to say the opposite to each other so hard to determine if they are a trans man or trans woman

Wonder if she was taking testosterone. Wonder if there were other conditions alongside the dysphonia.

We can't know the long term impact of cross sex hormones in such cases.

Seems being in the trans c...t is enough, even if you are female.