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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

SNP MSPs will be whipped to vote in favour of gender recognition reforms

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Criticycle · 26/10/2022 20:17

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-msps-will-be-whipped-to-vote-in-favour-of-gender-recognition-reforms-3894529

Nicola Sturgeon is now going to force members to vote in favour of gender recognition reform.

I feel like she does not understand that this is such a wedge issue that this might cripple the SNP for decades to come.

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BatCheeseIsFine · 29/10/2022 10:35

the Scottish gender reforms are bad because they entrench this into law - that you are whatever sex you say you are - yes it’s technically about making the process easier, but the effect is that the law is agreeing that you are whatever you saw you are, without any gatekeeping at all, which effectively means no one is allowed to question any man using it as a loophole.

they’re also bad because they are making law based on undefinable terms, such as living in/as a gender/woman/man. If these terms mean whatever anyone wants them to mean, they have no meaning and so can’t form the basis of a practicable law. The supposed safeguard that you’ll be prosecuted for faking it is entirely meaningless, as it can’t be proved that you’re faking it, because whatever you say becomes reality.

under the guise of being nice to terribly oppressed trans people, a narrative based on no clear evidence, its actual effect is to make it impossible to be a woman (or man) as a member of a sex class, and to make it impossible for women to call out danger and threat from males.

KittenKong · 29/10/2022 10:53

So oppressed eh? Aye right. I’m calling 🐮

BenCoopersSupportWren · 29/10/2022 12:44

That's why a lot of us marry and live with decent men & boys.

Yes, many of us do. My husband is absolutely lovely.

He’s still not welcome in female single-sex spaces. And because he is a decent bloke, he gets why that is and has no interest in trying to breach that boundary.

Waitwhat23 · 01/11/2022 11:30

Just saw this which I thought was relevant - www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/31/john-swinney-accused-misleading-snp-msps-crunch-vote-overhaul/

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