SNP MSPs will be whipped to vote in favour of gender recognition reforms

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www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-msps-will-be-whipped-to-vote-in-favour-of-gender-recognition-reforms-3894529

Nicola Sturgeon is now going to force members to vote in favour of gender recognition reform.

I feel like she does not understand that this is such a wedge issue that this might cripple the SNP for decades to come.

THATS RIGHT HEN YOU SHOW HER REAL FEMINISM EH

Well said @ClosedAuraOpenMind totally batshit.

You refuse to answer a straightforward question on the legislation proposed and instead pose an unrelated and irrelevant question as an attempt at deflection.

It is painfully clear that you know there is no answer to ‘how does a man live in woman gender’ that does not rely on outdated regressive stereotypes that the rest of us left behind decades ago. The entire thing is ridiculous and you know it.

That’s why you won’t/can’t answer even simple questions about the whole basis of the legislation.

You won’t answer the question posed - ‘how does a male live in woman gender’. Important because if he is caught out NOT living in ‘woman gender’ he could go to prison.

This question is based on the legislation which I presume you support.

But you won’t answer the question because you know the whole thing is ridiculous don’t you?

So far you have tried deflection onto irrelevant questions, calling me a bigot, and patronizing me.

The one thing you haven’t done is explain what the legislation means by ‘living in woman gender’.

Because you don’t know.

Well I was there, never been so ashamed of my supposedly democratic country, but very proud & heartened by the women I sat beside. We all behaved very well despite our rage at the inadequacy of the arguments for this dismantling of the safety, privacy and dignity of the women & children of Scotland.
This fight is far from over because women won’t wheesht

your support is unwavering realfeminist!.

Ash did raise the issue along with another 15 MSPs, some have left Parliament since.
I give huge credit & thanks to Ash for her integrity, Pam Gosal , Beth, Rachael & others who spoke up so well for women today.

I SUPPORT THE RIGHT KIND OF FEMINIST TO MY FINGERTIPS

The only sad individual here is you beachcitygirl if you can’t see how ridiculous it is to say that men can become women, and women become men.

I hate to break this to you, beachcity but women don’t have penises & testicles, men don’t have vulvas & wombs. HTH

Frankly, hell mend you.

Separatism is a blind, unthinking, grudge driven ideology. What a pity the scales didn't drop from your eyes sooner.

And falling standards in education.

And leading Europe in drug deaths

And fire services striking.

And police saying they risk becoming a 'martial force'.

But mostly it is the inability to listen. They will not listen. They are high on their own righteousness and no amount of evidence will convince them.

What's the saying - if reason didn't bring you to a belief, no amount of reason can convince you out of it? I can't remember the exact phrase.

Might be this one?

'You cannot reason a person out of a position he did not reason himself into in the first place.' Jonathon Swift

Thank you! Yes.

Which prison should the station wanker be incarcerated in? Male estate or female?

The reality in all of this is that if transwomen felt safe in male toilets and other spaces, they'd just use those.
@Calmdown14 some do, without issue. So why don't the rest?

Of course it is. The influence of the Catholic church in the west and even more so the Presbyterians/ free Presbyterians/ Free Kirk in the Highlands and Islands and their malign influence all over. Misogyny is woven into our history and culture far more deeply than England. It will take more than a self professed feminist first minister (who kowtows to male demands for access to female spaces) to undo it.

But mostly it is the inability to listen. They will not listen. They are high on their own righteousness and no amount of evidence will convince them.

Thats exactly it, Arabella . These people are lost. They will never be convinced. The best we can do is hope that those who are on the fence still have an open mind and to maintain a paper trail for future as someday this madness will pass.

Is that the best you've got? My 10 year old would beat you in a debate.
I too , would love to know how you "live in woman gender". I'm a woman but am probably doing it wrong. Does that make me a man?

I think the current requirement for proof that someone is living in the opposite sex gender is to change their name and title to ones appropriate for the opposite sex. Proof of this change is shown by the use of the new name and title on official documents like bank statements and utility bills.

I'm really surprised the Scots are putting up with this shit Tbh. Out of all countries I honestly thought the Scots would be the ones to say fuck that shit but they've just rolled over to it. I mean you kind of expect it from countries like Canada am truly stunned.