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Antipodean fruit growers 2 - Canary in the internet coal mine

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Bosky · 13/09/2022 06:04

Continuation thread from Antipodean fruit grower statement

A statement from the owner reads in part:

Downtime Update as of August 26th, 2022

"What I fear more than losing my site, being sued, or dealing with police is living in a world where [REDACTED] can [REDACTED] little boys and girls into [REDACTED] and [REDACTED], while normal people are not allowed to even discuss it.

The mob has already planned subsequent targets. Should we stay down, they will then attack 'gender critical' communities - especially those ran by and for women. No place can exist online which allows criticism of their [REDACTED], and nothing would excite them more than this power and domination struggle being inflicted on a female space instead."

I would link to the statement on the Internet Archive aka "Wayback Machine" but it has made all pages archived from the relevant site unsearchable (or deleted?).

Mumsnet does not permit links to the site Archive Today so that is out too.

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BigMaggieShoes · 17/05/2023 14:06

Nick and Josh go way back, but Nick is having a bit of a mid life crisis, I guess? The farmers are finding it it very entertaining, but Nick isn't. If you make your way down to his thread, the fun starts around the end of November last year, when the thread finds out about his and Lady Rackets holiday to a swingers resort with a nude beach.

TheClogLady · 17/05/2023 15:14

And actual LOL that your receipts is the 'drop kiwi farms' twitter account.

😆

MargieMerlinPie - it’s pretty funny that you are trying to make out that KF is ‘hosting’ images of sex abuse - KF is actually one of the least porn-addled sites on the web (which is why so many middle aged cat ladies prefer it to say, Reddit, and why the Mumsnet crossover is with KF and not 4Chan).

I’m sure you remember this video from when it was new, but seeing as you like to pretend we haven’t already told you the same stuff over and over, I’ll play along and remind you that in it, Josh clearly lays out why his ‘free speech absolutist’ position doesn’t mean he’s amenable to hosting porn on KF, not even the legal stuff, let alone whatever nastiness you are furtively implying.

https://www.youtube.com/live/gP92u3ld1-w?feature=share

Before you continue to YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/live/gP92u3ld1-w?feature=share

Mochudubh · 17/05/2023 16:29

RealFeminist · 15/05/2023 17:26

IF HES GOT A TRANSLATER HE'LL BE ONTAE BUGGERIN ABOOT WI EARWIGS NEXT

Genius! Nice one Nic.

OldGardinia · 17/05/2023 16:30

@nothingcomestonothing
"a weird corner of the internet inhabited by terminally online right wing edgelords and middle aged lesbians"

The buddy cop movie we never knew we needed.

nilsmousehammer · 17/05/2023 17:05

Oh not the middle aged lesbians again...

with or without frilly pants??

And why has 'middle aged lesbian' suddenly become a perjorative term obviously meaning 'old bag female who shouldn't be allowed' when we keep being told it means mostly male people??? And can be anyone of any sex who identifies as such and definitely does NOT mean homosexual or female?

Tis all very confusing.

But the last two pages demonstrate, there is zero point in trying to explain reality or work through the delusions, you're shouting into the void there. Major Tom's long since left the area.

nothingcomestonothing · 17/05/2023 17:07

nilsmousehammer · 17/05/2023 17:05

Oh not the middle aged lesbians again...

with or without frilly pants??

And why has 'middle aged lesbian' suddenly become a perjorative term obviously meaning 'old bag female who shouldn't be allowed' when we keep being told it means mostly male people??? And can be anyone of any sex who identifies as such and definitely does NOT mean homosexual or female?

Tis all very confusing.

But the last two pages demonstrate, there is zero point in trying to explain reality or work through the delusions, you're shouting into the void there. Major Tom's long since left the area.

IIRC it was one of the 'middle aged lesbians' who described KF thus Smile

PomegranateOfPersephone · 17/05/2023 17:09

nothingcomestonothing · 17/05/2023 09:59

Excellent summary thanks!

KF is full of people I have nothing in common with. People whose politics and views are very far from my own. There are parts I have no wish to visit. I did see a post describing the 'beauty parlor' section as something like 'a weird corner of the internet inhabited by terminally online right wing edgelords and middle aged lesbians', which made me laugh. And guess what? People are allowed to think things I don't. People are allowed to say things I wouldn't.

Radical eh?

Do I recall correctly that the Beauty Parlour was especially made for the likes of us???

Needmoresleep · 17/05/2023 17:15

Whereas wiki includes this "described its audience as "terminally online people from a wide range of political ideologies, from far right and anti-trans feminist types to edgy lefties obsessed with consuming internet drama"

Or at least it does for now. The battle of the wiki edits is ongoing.

Extremely online - Wikipedia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_online

Needmoresleep · 17/05/2023 17:16

No idea how that link got into my post. I should have cut and pasted plain text. Sorry.

nilsmousehammer · 17/05/2023 17:23

nothingcomestonothing · 17/05/2023 17:07

IIRC it was one of the 'middle aged lesbians' who described KF thus Smile

Yeah but do they have badges? T shirts? What's 'middle aged'? What sexes are they? And most importantly, are they wearing frilly pants?

Needmoresleep · 17/05/2023 17:53

Do lesbians wear frilly pants? Or just middle aged ones.

Like gay men used to wear a single earring?

It is amazing what you can learn from MN.

Redbird87 · 17/05/2023 18:04

nothingcomestonothing · 17/05/2023 12:49

Nope. They received threats, there's no evidence at all they were from farmers. Making threats isn't the farmers' MO, though I can think of another group who routinely threaten people who disagree with them. HARICA reconsidered after a 'kind and polite' email, and KF is still up and running with a HARICA certificate.

And actual LOL that your receipts is the 'drop kiwi farms' twitter account.

Anyhoo, are you going to apologise to @Redbird87 , the trans PP who you accused of trying to make trans people commit suicide?

It's cool, I've lost faith and am in the process of finding ways to deal with my dysphoria as a woman, which makes me a non-entity🤣

nothingcomestonothing · 17/05/2023 19:23

Redbird87 · 17/05/2023 18:04

It's cool, I've lost faith and am in the process of finding ways to deal with my dysphoria as a woman, which makes me a non-entity🤣

I'm sorry you aren't listened to Flowers Probably those with their fingers in their ears going lalala could do with hearing you the most.

Redbird87 · 17/05/2023 19:33

nothingcomestonothing · 17/05/2023 19:23

I'm sorry you aren't listened to Flowers Probably those with their fingers in their ears going lalala could do with hearing you the most.

Yeah, I'm not crazy about this word, but they really need to listen to afab people in the "queer" community. They're the ones escaping this crap in droves, and it's not for nothing.

Anyway, plenty others do listen, and they're better company anyway :3

TheClogLady · 17/05/2023 19:45

edgy lefties obsessed with consuming internet drama

Finally! A wikipedia acknowledgment that the Farms isn’t an actual Nazi website populated by actual Nazis… another five years or so and they might finally accept that it’s a celebrity gossip site… admittedly one for very niche ‘celebrities’…

… people who Self ID as celebrities, basically.

The Great SubReddit Bans of 2020 could turn out to be a significant chapter when the History of the Culture Wars get written up - the wildly disparate groups of Reddit Refugees who simultaneously landed at the farms soon realised that actually, you CAN peacefully coexist with your online opposites, you just need a really big selection of obscure ‘ratings’ icons that almost no one understands well enough to know whether they are getting upvoted or downvoted points-wise, but everyone knows that writing pointless crap gets you dustbins and tophats.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bv8v3v/the-great-ban-reddit-bans-2000-communities-including-the_donald-chapotraphouse

Reddit Bans 2,000 Communities Including the_donald, ChapoTrapHouse

It's already being called 'the Great Ban.'

https://www.vice.com/en/article/bv8v3v/the-great-ban-reddit-bans-2000-communities-including-the_donald-chapotraphouse

EpicChaos · 17/05/2023 20:14

GingerPCatt · 17/05/2023 07:26

“Visit your local police station and tell them you're transphobic and looking for a hate website that stalks transpeople. Maybe they can help you out.”

Or…. Visit a perfectly legal website that has been harassed and illegally attacked and see for your self.

Well it's quite obvious to most of us i think, that the reason that merlin @MerlinsLostMarbles lost its marbles, is that the buttons on the back of its head have fallen off and the marbles have liberated themselves.
As for the very poor attempt at the emotive language/emotional blackmail, clear off! it doesn't wash with me whatsoever!

Many thanks @GingerPCatt

Also very many thanks @OldGardinia i'll go back over and read your post properly in a mo with Bosky's and thank you very much indeed too @Bosky i'll reply to yours and gardenias in a bit. Cheers! but hot damn, a jack monroe thread that i'm missing out on! damn! lol and just at an important juncture too :-/ :-D

ImNotAnExpert · 17/05/2023 20:16

Needmoresleep · 17/05/2023 17:53

Do lesbians wear frilly pants? Or just middle aged ones.

Like gay men used to wear a single earring?

It is amazing what you can learn from MN.

The frilly pant theory of sexuality is really, really confusing.

Bosky · 18/05/2023 04:46

Redbird87 · 17/05/2023 18:04

It's cool, I've lost faith and am in the process of finding ways to deal with my dysphoria as a woman, which makes me a non-entity🤣

If I understand the illogical stereotypes correctly, does this mean you are at one and the same time:

a) morbidly self-hating
b) but strangely not wanting to genocide yourself

I think you are definitely an entity around these parts 👍

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Redbird87 · 18/05/2023 04:57

Bosky · 18/05/2023 04:46

If I understand the illogical stereotypes correctly, does this mean you are at one and the same time:

a) morbidly self-hating
b) but strangely not wanting to genocide yourself

I think you are definitely an entity around these parts 👍

Don't ask me, I'm just here for the memes ;)

GingerPCatt · 21/05/2023 12:06

I’m just there for am hole 2: the gibes boogaloo.

Redbird87 · 21/05/2023 23:24

GingerPCatt · 21/05/2023 12:06

I’m just there for am hole 2: the gibes boogaloo.

Waiting for somebody to come forward with NOAA aerial photography of the timelapse of alpaca mass graves like at a war crimes tribunal lmfao

TheCreamTeaWasFromMe · 22/05/2023 14:05

Help very gratefully received on tor please. I'm a total dunce with tech - have tried following linux guidance for chromebook but keep getting a download error (when I get to that command section).

<imagines self being roundly mocked for complete inability to keep up with the average 12 year old's IT skills>

nothingcomestonothing · 22/05/2023 14:08

TheCreamTeaWasFromMe · 22/05/2023 14:05

Help very gratefully received on tor please. I'm a total dunce with tech - have tried following linux guidance for chromebook but keep getting a download error (when I get to that command section).

<imagines self being roundly mocked for complete inability to keep up with the average 12 year old's IT skills>

Sorry am mobilef* so clueless, bumping for more techy types to hopefully see

zibzibara · 22/05/2023 14:30

TheCreamTeaWasFromMe · 22/05/2023 14:05

Help very gratefully received on tor please. I'm a total dunce with tech - have tried following linux guidance for chromebook but keep getting a download error (when I get to that command section).

<imagines self being roundly mocked for complete inability to keep up with the average 12 year old's IT skills>

Does it work if you install it from here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.torbrowser?

I don't have a Chrome book but this worked on my Android.

Tor Browser - Apps on Google Play

Experience real private browsing without tracking, surveillance, or censorship.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.torproject.torbrowser

Confirmedwitch · 22/05/2023 14:39

For those with iPhones. Download the Orbot VPB app. It’s free.

Download Brave as a browser (free).

Go to the Orbot browser. Hit connect.

Go to Brave. Open a private browsing window and paste in the Antipodean agriculturalists link ending in .onion

And sneed.

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