Why am I not surprised?

[FatFucker]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10382291/Did-Hertfordshire-Police-force-break-uniform-code-transgender-trailblazer.html

One rule for women and another for transgender women.

Having long green nails and heavy makeup, breaches Hertfordshire Police Forces uniform policy, unless of course you're trans! Then you can do what you like to "feel like a woman".

Well, Cherry 🍒 is a Special Constable, just a bit more special than others it seems. They say Special Constables are allowed a bit more leeway in such matters, so any female Specials in Herts - you know what to do.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"

I honestly don't get this.
As in, she's wearing make up and nail varnish.
So bloody what?!
It can't be put down to anything like '' valid concerns, taking over toilets!''
I sometimes think anyone who is trans can't win (that's a saying in the UK, it doesn't mean trying to win an end game or anything!)
Don't wear make up.
'' You look too much like a bloke!!''
'' At least makes an effort -
Stop appropriating womanhood! Who says you can wear makeup or nail varnish?!
At least make it consistent.
Or should it be that people shouldn't be trans at all?
Genuinely (honestly) curious

It's that actual women would not be allowed to wear them in the same situation.

Not that it matters, but I'm female and not trans at all.

@nocoolnamesleft

It's that actual women would not be allowed to wear them in the same situation.

OK, I get that, but as a female who isn't trans, I can do my usual self of going out every day without makeup and painted nails (which I do every single day, can't remember the last time I wore either) and nobody cares. If you're trans though, that's my point - you maybe feel like you have to fit in. As in whatever you're going to do with your appearance, there'll be someone, somewhere judging and gossiping about your looks.

If you're trans though, that's my point - you maybe feel like you have to fit in.

Fitting in what? No other officer is allowed to wear nail polish and heavy makeup.

But it's not about gossiping about looks, that's the point - it's that she is going against their uniform codes and being allowed to.

If Cherry wanted to fit in Cherry would follow the same rules as the female police officers.

Cherry doesn't want to fit in as it doesn't get enough attention. Long green nails and heavy makeup has got Cherry the attention Cherry craves. Though I don't think a sad face photo in the daily fail is anything to aspire to.

fitting in what
Thought that was clear from my posts?
Assuming you're genuinely asking, and have read them, I was meaning if you're trans, whatever you do looks wise isn't '' right. ''
There'll always be someone saying Erm, no.

As for the Cherry says Cherry says post, I get it.
Even though it sounds ridiculous, you make your point.
You don't want to see trans so Cherry says Cherry says instead of using any pronouns.
Fair enough

@NoNotMeNoSiree

As for the Cherry says Cherry says post, I get it. Even though it sounds ridiculous, you make your point. You don't want to see trans so Cherry says Cherry says instead of using any pronouns. Fair enough

It’s because you’re not allowed to correctly sex Cherry because MNHQ doesn’t allow that.

I thought most people knew that?

@NoNotMeNoSiree

As for the Cherry says Cherry says post, I get it. Even though it sounds ridiculous, you make your point. You don't want to see trans so Cherry says Cherry says instead of using any pronouns. Fair enough

We don't know Cherry's chosen pronouns.

I thought most people knew that?

I do.
Correctly sex.
Refuse to see as trans. Stay in your lane.
Potato, potatah.

@NoNotMeNoSiree

fitting in what Thought that was clear from my posts? Assuming you're genuinely asking, and have read them, I was meaning if you're trans, whatever you do looks wise isn't '' right. '' There'll always be someone saying Erm, no.

It was clear from your posts that you either didn't read the open post and assumed everyone was criticising them for wearing makeup. Or you think this officer shouldn't have to follow the same rules as everyone else.

If they want to fit in, why would they want to stand out by not follow the rules?

I read all the posts.
My comments said that I wasn't criticising for wearing make up.
People should feel free to wear make up as and when they please if at all.
If you re read my post maybe you might get why I'm saying I can wear make up or not wear makeup and not be judged (actually, that's a laugh, just typing that made me think how I'm sometimes referred to as tired looking )
If you're trans going by this posr you're going to get commented on your looks if you wear it or not.

@NoNotMeNoSiree

I read all the posts. My comments said that I wasn't criticising for wearing make up. People should feel free to wear make up as and when they please if at all. If you re read my post maybe you might get why I'm saying I can wear make up or not wear makeup and not be judged (actually, that's a laugh, just typing that made me think how I'm sometimes referred to as tired looking ) If you're trans going by this posr you're going to get commented on your looks if you wear it or not.

Female police officers are not allowed to wear heavy makeup or wear nail polish whilst on duty. They can if they choose when off duty.

Cherry can wear heavy makeup and nail polish when off duty^^ the same as every other police officer. Cherry is there to perform duties as a police officer, not give style and beauty advice.

I read all the posts.

Maybe you did. But you either choose to ignore the point or don't understand the point.

Omigawd yes I know, is my original point being ignored or pretending can't understand it though?!

That was to Oh Lordy

Did you miss where I said I was not trans?
Just a woman, wearing make up or not wearing make up?
Still getting judged sometimes due to the fact I don't wear it?!
How if you're trans, whether you wear it or not it's just the same if not worse.
How should a woman look, anyway?!
That conversation can just go fuck itself right away.

"I honestly don't get this.
As in, she's wearing make up and nail varnish.
So bloody what?!
It can't be put down to anything like '' valid concerns, taking over toilets!''
I sometimes think anyone who is trans can't win (that's a saying in the UK, it doesn't mean trying to win an end game or anything!)
Don't wear make up.
'' You look too much like a bloke!!''
'' At least makes an effort -
Stop appropriating womanhood! Who says you can wear makeup or nail varnish?!
At least make it consistent.
Or should it be that people shouldn't be trans at all?
Genuinely (honestly) curious"

I find your original post hard to read. What point are you making?

That trans women don't need to follow the same rules regarding appearance whilst on duty because their 'feelings' about their visage matter more their colleagues?

The rules around appropriate dress code and appearance are there for everyone to adhere to, hence a unisex style uniform available in various sizes, whether you're male or female.

Heavy makeup on duty looks unprofessional. Long nails are a potential H&S issue and impractical when you're trying to arrest and cuff someone.

@NoNotMeNoSiree

Did you miss where I said I was not trans? Just a woman, wearing make up or not wearing make up? Still getting judged sometimes due to the fact I don't wear it?! How if you're trans, whether you wear it or not it's just the same if not worse. How should a woman look, anyway?! That conversation can just go fuck itself right away.

Are you a police officer?

If not whether you personally wear makeup or have long nails is irrelevant to this thread.