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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Starmer on Marr now

386 replies

Jaysmith71 · 26/09/2021 09:47

We must have a tolerent debate.... Trans community are the most marginalised community of all

....and 'Only women have a cervix' is, "Something that should not be said."

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BettyFilous · 26/09/2021 09:48

😠

Jaysmith71 · 26/09/2021 09:51

Around 9m 45s in the live feed on Iplayer.

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WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 26/09/2021 09:51

Disappointing again. I wish Marr had pushed on women's rights and not let it be turned, yet again, to trans rights
It's clear women have no rights if trans people get what they want because as soon as women get a mention the reply is trans rights
Hard luck women

BettyFilous · 26/09/2021 09:51

Trans = most marginalised x 2
Laws need to go further
Not defended Rosie or condemned the attacks on her.
Won’t agree only women have cervixes.
Need respectful debate.
Absolutely nothing about upholding women’s rights, single sex provisions.
Same old mealy mouthed, equivocated bollox from Keir.

Whatthechicken · 26/09/2021 09:51

But what Angela Rayner said was just a different style to Starmer’s.

littlbrowndog · 26/09/2021 09:51

Just saw. Never answered apart from only women have a cervix should never be said

Then went straight onto trans people most margined forever

IvyTwines2 · 26/09/2021 09:51

FUCKING HELL.

NorthernNic · 26/09/2021 09:51

That's the final straw. Despite my reservations I voted Labour at the last GE but not now. For future elections what are writing on soiled ballots? Only Women Have A Cervix??

NorthernNic · 26/09/2021 09:52

Grin I meant spolied!!

Jaysmith71 · 26/09/2021 09:53

You could soil your ballot paper, but that is going the extra mile.

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IvyTwines2 · 26/09/2021 09:53

Starmer: #womenshouldwheesht

TheABC · 26/09/2021 09:53

So 51% of the electorate don't matter and can't even be named?
Good luck with that.

littlbrowndog · 26/09/2021 09:53

Why don’t the interviewser just say. We are talking about women

The ones who have an epidemic of violence against them

The cervix havers

BettyFilous · 26/09/2021 09:53

I spoiled my ballot in May for the first time ever, couldn’t not vote. Looks like I’ll be doing the same at the next GE. Sigh.

thinkningaboutit · 26/09/2021 09:54

So frustrating, straight on to trans rights, nothing about women.

According to Keith we should not say only women have a cervix.

I worry people watching won't really get what that was all about and what the implications are.

littlbrowndog · 26/09/2021 09:54

I have never seen starmer speak before

Not missed much.

Keeps saying well look

thinkningaboutit · 26/09/2021 09:54

*Keir

AnyOldPrion · 26/09/2021 09:55

Is it over? Did Andrew Mark really not push him on this issue?

If Starmer genuinely implied that some men have a cervix, then Marr should have been in there and pushing to demonstrate to the general public what a fool he is. A real missed opportunity if he didn’t.

AnyOldPrion · 26/09/2021 09:56

Marr, not Mark…

FreeBritnee · 26/09/2021 09:56

Weak, weak man.

littlbrowndog · 26/09/2021 09:56

@thinkningaboutit

So frustrating, straight on to trans rights, nothing about women.

According to Keith we should not say only women have a cervix.

I worry people watching won't really get what that was all about and what the implications are.

I think they will get it.

It was like why are is this man saying you can’t say only women have cervix’s and why talking about trans.

Jaysmith71 · 26/09/2021 09:57

It's this 'most marginalised' crap that keeps getting trotted out.

There are people sleeping on the streets.

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Fallagain · 26/09/2021 09:57

Labour has always traditionally done well with younger voter. Younger women, on the whole are more likely to be TRA. Like all political parties running up to an election they are only interested in votes. Labour is a lost cause on this issue.

Out of interest does anyone know if reclaim the streets have an official line on the trans debate?

WhoNeedsaManOfTheWorld · 26/09/2021 09:58

AR is vile
I was so hopeful several years ago to have a working class women in politics, what a disappointment.
I am properly working class and have a strong regional accent. I also have a professional job. I would lose my job if I used that language.
My accent is lazy, we ignore vowels and drop the ends off words. I don't change my accent but, at work, I speak more slowly and don't lose the ends of words. If I am delivering training I use the full words, still with my accent
She is dining out on her background and, I was going to say accent but it's not, rough language perhaps?

MidsomerMurmurs · 26/09/2021 09:59

@thinkningaboutit

*Keir
Nah he probably identifies as a Keith.