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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Pushback at Wi Spa in Los Angeles

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FannyCann · 27/06/2021 11:14

Well it's all kicking off at the spa. An amazing woman behind the desk standing up for women and telling a man where to take his penis. I fear she will lose her job over this but it's a glorious way to go.

twitter.com/stillgray/status/1408997169344909313?s=21

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FannyCann · 27/06/2021 11:16

Related twitter thread from Sex Matters

twitter.com/sexmattersorg/status/1409068089166209028?s=21

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FannyCann · 27/06/2021 11:18

"It must be hard not being a real man, huh? Try it."

I want to buy that woman a drink. And award her a medal.
We should reinstate the suffragette medals and award them to women like her.

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TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 27/06/2021 11:19

She’s a shero.

FightingtheFoo · 27/06/2021 11:21

YESSS COME ON AMERICAN WOMEN!

And of course it's a woman of colour willing to tell it like it is.

VortexofBloggery · 27/06/2021 11:22

Excellent calling out of the bullshit gaslighting by this woman. This won't happen / this isn't a problem / why are you checking underwear to gatekeep facilities / mind your own business NO. A MAN EXPOSED HIMSELF TO KIDS. I'd be calling the cops.

MiladyBerserko · 27/06/2021 11:25

Just saw this. This will be happening in Scotland soon. I asked my gym, Nuffield, to confirm if the female open plan changing facilities would be open to males who say they identified as women, and they said they would decide on a case by case basis. So, yes

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 27/06/2021 11:29

they said they would decide on a case by case basis.

My understanding is that, in law, "case by case" doesn't necessarily mean what it does in everyday speech.

Case by case can cover an entire class - it's not always proportionate to make a determination on individuals. I'd like to see Nuffield lay out their procedure for making their case by case decision.

littlbrowndog · 27/06/2021 11:30

So a guy can just go into a women’s open plan changing room and just be in there with women and girls while they are getting changed

What if he takes off his clothes. Is that not flashing ?

FOJN · 27/06/2021 11:31

I think it's a customer complaining but my god she's impressive. She's assertive, civil, very clear about the nature of the problem and she's not backing down.

I love how she responds when the guy tries to mansplain her "mistake", she's having none of it, "He has a dick and testicles."

This is very cheering, I'm full of admiration for her.

littlbrowndog · 27/06/2021 11:33

I mean I don’t want my daughter to be exposed to men’s genitalia in a women’s changing room

Whatwouldscullydo · 27/06/2021 11:33

Good for her!

littlbrowndog · 27/06/2021 11:34

And I also don’t want a man looking at either her or mine naked bodies

GCAcademic · 27/06/2021 11:35

@littlbrowndog

So a guy can just go into a women’s open plan changing room and just be in there with women and girls while they are getting changed

What if he takes off his clothes. Is that not flashing ?

Apparently not, if you say the magic word "transgender".
EsmaCannonball · 27/06/2021 11:36

If this women suffers any negative consequences for sticking up for women and girls who don't want to strip naked in front of a man then I hope American feminists stick up for her and raise any legal fees she might incur. Excellent woman.

AnyOldPrion · 27/06/2021 11:38

Thanks for posting, OP. The woman behind the desk was not standing up for women, I don’t think. It was hard to hear her, but I think she says it’s the law. The woman objecting is a paying customer. I guess some of the other women standing around might also be customers who felt equally uncomfortable.

We need to all object as loudly and confidently as that woman. Even if the law is against us, the law is wrong and we need to make a fuss. These men have demanded entry with loud voices in public and extensive lobbying in private and that’s why they’re there. Now we need to say loud and clear that this is wholly unacceptable and that we will not go away and be quiet.

WarOnWoman · 27/06/2021 11:40

Good for that woman. Again, it's a WOC standing up for the others. It looked like the women and girls had walked out of the changing rooms. The woman who was asking for her money back looked visibly shaken. Sad

FannyCann · 27/06/2021 11:40

Whoops, yes, the staff member is sticking with the company policy. I thought she had encouraged the customer but she didn't. Blush

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EsmaCannonball · 27/06/2021 11:42

Remember the woman in America who got banned from her gym for complaining about a male being in the women's locker room? The male in question referred to himself as a male on social media, had a fetish about women who worked out, and also a fetish about being a female Polish exotic dancer. He wasn't a member of the gym, nor was he using the gym, but for some reason he liked to leave a bag in the room where women were changing. Gendertrender had an article on it, in the days when Gendertrender wasn't de-fanged by the whole Yaniv thing.

PronounssheRa · 27/06/2021 11:43

In normal times men exposing themselves to women and girls would have been considered indecent exposure.

Wild times. Good on the woman for calling it out.

nauticant · 27/06/2021 11:44

Apparently not, if you say the magic word "transgender".

This comes to my mind frequently these days:

ScreamingMeMe · 27/06/2021 11:45

Wow that person behind the desk couldn't give less of a shit. And that wokeyblokey too. So if he was transgender it would be ok for him to walk around with his dick and balls out? That seems to be what he was saying. Glad she gave him short shrift.

She's awesome. Looks like a number of women and girls walked out. I hope they all demand their money back.

And of course it's a woman of colour willing to tell it like it is.

Damn right!

SheldonesqueDoesNotBelongHere · 27/06/2021 11:45

I don’t know who you are lady but by all things holy you are a candidate for my woman of the year.

He has a dick and testicles - swinging freely in a women’s area in front of women and kids.

So not even trying to hide his male entitlement and not even trying to be womanly.

I applaud you and I hope to god you get promoted rather than sacked for pointing this out repeatedly as a problem to the man who is hard of thinking.

And also this tweet underneath.

‘A real man would stand up for women - not silence women who are trying to protect themselves’ *

*I have edited that slightly so as not to get deleted.

WoolOfBat · 27/06/2021 11:48

Why do some males assume that women are ok to see penises and testicles belonging to strangers? And want our daughters to see it 🤮🤮🤮

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/06/2021 11:49

I thought the youngster on the desk was male, but I could have been wrong. The customer is a force of nature! 'Give her her money back!' she says as another woman goes to the other staff member behind hte desk. Interesting to see the young man patronisingly explaining to her that the naked person isn't a man, he's transgender. She's having none of it, and good for her! How dare these men tell us what we must and mustn't do in our own designated spaces. Why aren't they applying all that energy on telling other men to be more accepting so transwomen feel safe in men's spaces?

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 27/06/2021 11:50

(Young male customer, I mean.)